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Solanar
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Copied from Illy Times
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Tacardi
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Agreed Auraya, But obviously SHARK seems to have
different intentions. As indicated with troop filled cities landing in TVM land
claim.
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mrmarcdee
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Why do people assume things so resolutely when they do not know?
Why do you say "obvious" when there are alternative explanations?
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Legoman
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Isn't a land claim telling the community what to do, I.E stay out of my sandbox, even thou Illy is a sandbox for all players?
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Angrim
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JodaMyth
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I don't understand the major issue here. Each side has a clear stance on land claims and are following through on it. TVM claimed an area and SHARK decided not to recognize land claims. It's up to TVM to defend their claim in this case either through diplomacy or military actions. There is a large size difference between the two but TVMs cluster and military focus would help negate much of that if it came down to an actual war.
The thing between Odo and Lorcan seems to be a misunderstanding on the outcome and rules set up before the PvP took place, the only reason that was brought to a further light was through a combination of GC trolling, whining and soapboxing by some players painting SHARK as the enemy of all in an attempt to rally players/alliances against them hoping to hop into a war that has SHARK as the aggressors in order to avoid a pile on of Elgean confeds, at least that is how it seems to me. This all could have been settled more easily but hindsight is 20/20 in this case it seems. Hey look a star! |
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abstractdream
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Jejune
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Yeah, me neither. Why would anyone lament this? This is the game. TVM made a big move to establish a bold land claim in the most central location in the BL. Shark also obviously wants to control part of that real estate, and were not going to let TVM annex it for themselves. This is in every sense of the word the makings of a "strategic" war for control of the southern half of Newlands. It's not a conflict because someone trolled GC, insulted someone in the forum, or doesn't like someone else's face. If the conflict cannot be resolved diplomatically, then there will be a war. If TVM wins, they could potentially move Shark out of their land claim. If Shark wins, they could force TVM to drop the claim and relinquish control of their portion of Newlands. The stakes are high and reasons for the conflict are geographical/political, not personal.
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Zenorra
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Shark has been moving cities to BL for months. TVM have tried to solve things diplomatically, but Shark refuses to negotiate.
Lorcan and Odoacer agreed to a pvp. If Lorcan wins, Odoacer would have to move his city out of the land claim. If Odoacer looses, Odoacer would stay. Lorcan dropped his TVM tag for this pvp, to keep TVM out of it. I have PROOF of this agreement. I would post it here, but I've been told its against the TOS. When Lorcan launched a siege against Odoacer during their pvp, Shark sent a mail telling Lorcan to remove the siege or they would remove it for him. (paraphrasing here). Lorcan recalled most of his armies, but did end up losing 1 to Shark. Next, Shark armies were/are on the way to various TVM members (some have been feints so far). Here is a screenshot with the TVM LC overlay. "Why is this an issue?" I see this question asked several times already in this thread. This is an issue because Shark decided to pick on TVM first. Out of all of the different land claim alliances out there they could have chosen, they chose the one that is in a well known confederation. Shark is goading the DSD into another war. If and when the rest of the DSD steps in to support TVM, Sharks will bring their friends and BOOM! Another server war. THATS why this is an issue.
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JodaMyth
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A server war would not be a good way to describe it, more like half a server war since if the entire DSD gets involved probably 80% of the fighting will be in Elgea judging by city locations. There would still be a large number of alliance uninvolved. The mix of a LC and confed here only serve to burden one side of a confed without adding any benefit to it, in the sense of needing to defend the claim itself not TVM as an alliance. As it stands it's a matter of alliance vs alliance which is slowly (or rapidly in Illy terms) devolving into confed vs confed. If both sides want a peaceful solution maybe try the same deal you have with mCrow in that claim. Seeing the previous server war mentioned though suggests to me there is some old bitterness still left over on either side. I wasn't around for that so sadly I cannot comment on it. Now that I read up I shouldn't be commenting on any of this as it's got nothing to do with me or my alliance |
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