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    Posted: 30 Mar 2018 at 20:18
I would like a court of some sort to bring grievances to in the event of bullying. Possibly set it up in Centrum with a link like “Petition the court”.

There are several members that, due to their size, seem to think that nobody can or should stand in their way of taking land and cities as they see fit. There are also some alliances with similar notions.

Many small alliances and non-allied players are being attacked in order for those players to acquire cities without having to build them like the rest of us. My alliance is a small trade alliance – we did not start playing Illyriad to be wiped out by the larger PvP players. We are not aggressors although we try to defend ourselves.

None of the alliances that we have confederation agreements with have come to our aid. General chat is where these bullies hang out, so appealing to larger, older players gets us nowhere because the bullies are their friends. We just become targets of other bullies.

A “King’s Court” where the smaller players and alliances could petition for aid would be a great addition to the game. The court could gather forces to punish aggressors and assess penalties to the aggressors’ alliance – especially in the case of unprovoked attacks or undeclared wars. Alliances must agree to abide by the rulings of the court (swear allegiance) or have their alliance terminated.

The court might also hand out penalties to alliances that fail to come to the aid of alliances they have confederation agreements with.

Most of these problems came about when the restrictions were lifted on the number of cities a player could have. This is a solution that would be in keeping with the time period of Illyriad and hopefully solve of few of the bullying problems so that the more peaceful players can enjoy the game without being driven from it.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SPQR Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Mar 2018 at 22:21
What you're proposing is for the game to enforce a certain play style on players by force. Such a addition will ruin the sandbox here, we have many types of players who have a style of their own thus it's a rediculous suggestion.


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Courts imply laws; laws imply enforcement; enforcement implies sufficient power for military confrontation. All you're really trying to do is get other people to fight on your behalf, and give that intervention the veneer of legitimacy.

No real alliance is going to sign away their ability to make strategic decisions to some Illyriad world government (or court, or whatever you want to call it). If you have a specific complaint, then make it clear. Vague wording about bullies and GC is completely unhelpful to anyone who might offer you assistance.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Wartow Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Mar 2018 at 03:36
Originally posted by Ten Kulch Ten Kulch wrote:

If you have a specific complaint, then make it clear. Vague wording about bullies and GC is completely unhelpful to anyone who might offer you assistance.

This.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Thexion Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Apr 2018 at 17:42
I actually been thinking that corrupted court of king Sigur would be fun addition to the game. Voting With bribery and dagger diplomacy and representatives. I suppose that is not actually what you where thinking.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote WAFFLES Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Apr 2018 at 21:23
This sounds like another player who has had a beat down by another player. The server is littered with the anti bullying crowd. How do you expect to play games if there is no thrill of conflict or a chance of loss? This post is a perfect example of all that is wrong in the game.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The Reaper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Apr 2018 at 21:57
Sounds like a lot of whining. This can't be said enough, you play a sandbox game. With many a different playstyle. Welcome to the Sandbox. Now commence the continuous whining. 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Emerson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Apr 2018 at 20:52
About what I figured. You older players don't want to give up any power so you can continue to lord it over the newer, smaller players.
This is precisely why a court is needed. You that are attacking me here are the same types attacking the smaller, mostly defenseless players and alliances. Maybe not you, specifically, but you know them - they are your friends that have been playing for years right along with you. They like things just the way they are because they can get away with whatever they want.
Fine - be that way. It's a childish attitude to claim this is a sandbox and I'm whining. This is the kind of garbage I see in GC and what I was referring to in my post. Thank you for clearing that up.
The consensus I have been getting in my message box (and there are a lot of them) is this idea is a good one but the older players will ridicule me for it (they nailed that one) and others that have basically given up, quit their alliance and are waiting to be wiped out by a player that wants their cities. Sad.
If beating up on smaller players is your thing, why not go play Age of Empires, Civilization or Mortal Kombat?
Why can't we have a semblance of law in Illyriad? What would be the harm? Sure, it changes strategies and, maybe, a little of the balance of power. Would that really be so bad?

Let the insults and ridiculing start now. Tongue
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote WAFFLES Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Apr 2018 at 21:19
Emerson you have 7 cities and around 67k pop. I am wondering how you are being “bullied”. I don’t know your specific gaming style. Maybe being more active and building troops might keep other players from messing with you. I see you are in a Trader alliance. Those alliances usually have nice things. Like gold. Banks have lots of money. They also have guards, alarm systems, and vaults. Have you gone to your allies for help?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hyde Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Apr 2018 at 21:32
People play illy to have freedom and "live out a fantasy" whether it is a rich crafter, huge warlord, or magnificent empire builder. Some come to socialise, or to help people.

For someone to add in real life restrictions such as a "court" on what people can or can't do, it ruins the escapism that the game provides. It would drive more people away than make people happy.
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