Time to make a seperate realm.

"Even a new realm after 2 years will start to take shape much like this one... You cannot discount experience, knowledge, productivity, and seniority in a sandbox. Those in my opinion are the challenges which players have to overcome and is much like real-life".

Just reading that statement made me think of the Russian Revolution of 1917 when the people decided that they had enough of living under Czarist Romanov rule for over 300 years, and chose communism. Lots of people in the game and new comers will never be able to achieve a level that some of the more experienced players have achieved. If the devs develop a second realm and it turns out to be exactly like the one it is now than at least we were given an option on how it would turn out. At least we were given the chance to play on a second realm, to shape it into what ever the players wanted it to be. I personally don't think it'll end up the same way it is now, sure you'll have alliances from the other realm coming over trying to make it the same. But I assure you you'll have countering forces that want to see the game play out differently. That was one of the goals of the SIN was to destroy the alliance power structure and destroy sitter accounts. See there is a lot of will of the player base to change things, the problem is that that player base gave up and quit the game. Once again I state it is impossible to beat an enemy that has unlimited resources due to either having many sitter accounts or just through years of stockpiling. If this games mechanics were different and one could rush build troops maybe it would be different. But no there was once a will to change the game, read the farewells, read the war declarations of the SIN and you'll see there was once the will.

A new server free of sitters and multi-accounting will bring the will of some of the people to light. I also suspect as I've said before lots of old players will return to this game if notified of the chances and that a new realm opened up.

For those of you already established or are perfectly happy playing with sitter accounts, ect ect. You have the choice to stay on the old realm. No one will force you to come over to the new one. And a second realm will not degrade the game in anyway, it will only enhance it.


Please dev's open a new realm free of sitter accounts, implement a vacation mode in the game, and beef up anti accounting to protect the integrity of the game.

It wouldn't be a reboot. Players can still play on the original one and play on the second one. It would still be persistent because it wouldn't be going any where.
I think where the apprehension lies is that most of the players know a second server would render the original obsolete, which it would. Its like the old dog you've had for years and all a sudden theres a brand new puppy and everyone wants to play with the brand new puppy cause its new and fresh. So i understand why people who have lots to lose wouldn't want it to go through. Just ask your self one question, are you fine with Illyriad deteriorating until maybe 100 players are left, or do you want to take a chance and see if this can kick start Illyriad again.
Like i said the choice is yours to stay on the original if there were to be a second server created, the persistencey wouldn't be lost.

"where, essentially, everyone in the game could start again from scratch".

I see how in the technical term the Dev could have used the term "start again from scratch" as one would have to move down to this landmass and begin a new. In one way it was like declaring bankruptcy, you personally get to start a new but the rich people and the banks still get to keep what they've already made.
Like I said before I'm looking for a Russian Revolution of 1917, I want a new server free of the years of build up and free of sitter accounts. I don't want an "essentially, everyone in the game could start again from scratch". I want a definate everyone in the game WILL start again from scratch.

Couldn't agree with you more Dungshovel. That's why I decided to cut my losses and quit playing the game. I have no problem with the financial support, it was that it had so many fundamental flaws that I didn't want to "waste" my time on this game. I could careless if they never developed this game further and let it sit the way it is. The only thing I care about is getting a new realm with the sitters and the multi-gamers out. Cause those ruined the game for me, so I want them gone. I also want a clean slate to play on free of the benefits that sitters and multi-accounting gave the old player base.

I personally think they have this game paid for, I said in a previous post that I think the company behind Illyriad is just happy collecting their government grant money. I could read up on exactly the statue that they receive their money for and the merit behind it. But if I had to venture I'm guessing when their grant comes up for renewal they tell the government we have X amount of players playing the game (sitter accounts included, and multi-accounts) that way it makes it look a lot better that the government isn't funding some dead beat game. That's the only reason why I can think of them imo abandoning this game. Idk how many people gotta quit and make statements before they realise that the sitters have to go. I could totally be wrong though, but I believe they're happy collecting the government money. Here Ill spend the next few hours researching the grant that they receive their money from. If I could find out which programme it falls under I could phone the ministry and ask them for a financial copy to see how much the company receives from the British government, it should all be public knowledge as its tax payers dollars and has to be accounted for.

But yeah I'm not playing a game where I knowingly know its not going to change. I suppose I could start playing again, create 8 accounts and become what I hate. Guess the old adage goes, if you cant beat em join em!

Yah who knows whats going on with the company. All i know is they took a hands off approach to the game. Which would be fine if thats what the player base wanted, but it isn't what they want.
I dunno maybe i should've asked for a new server two years ago. Now this game kinda seems dead and unless they do something in the next six montha i might just thank them for the time i did have and move on. No use fighting something which won't change.