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The GMs are the people to deal with any alleged incidents.
If Rill needed to do something, sending an igm to the GM's would be sufficient would be my suggestion.
I do not believe that the forum is for people to make their personal thoughts known on the interpretation of Illyriad Games rules or policies.  This whole thread has the whiff of a player attempting to put themselves on the same level as the GM's.  It isn't their job to set out policy or interpret the rules.  By all means report specific perceived incidents,  but my view is to leaveaction and publicity to the owners of the game.
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I would like to point out that Illy likely has many young players.  Talk of any sexual nature or other topics of non-PG subjects shouldn't be posted in the GC or the forum.  I would recommend the same for the alliance chats but obviously the individual alliances would control that.  
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Originally posted by DeathDealer89 DeathDealer89 wrote:

I would like to point out that Illy likely has many young players.  Talk of any sexual nature or other topics of non-PG subjects shouldn't be posted in the GC or the forum.  I would recommend the same for the alliance chats but obviously the individual alliances would control that.  

Exactly, thanks! Illy is PG-13 in GC. AC does not have to be, and PMs do no have to be, unless someone tells you that you are chatting with a minor. In that case, don't talk naughty. And don't harass someone in one of the many ways that it can happen. 

It's basically the same rules as real life! ha

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if only this were the worst problem illy faced, or even one of the existential ones.

Originally posted by Rill Rill wrote:

Illy rules prohibit sexism and sexual harassment.  In the past the developers and community have done a pretty good job of addressing this issue.  I think it's time for us to take a stand together, as a community, to say that this activity is not OK, not by anyone, not toward anyone.
we did, when we agreed to the ToS. nothing to see here. move along.

Originally posted by Rill Rill wrote:

1) Players who agree that sexual harassment and sexual shaming should not be tolerated can indicate their agreement in this forum post.
because players who've decided to violate ToS will be cowed by a show of force composed of...erm...forum posts? there was a time when Rill knew the forum didn't actually solve problems.

Originally posted by Rill Rill wrote:

I am also not posting because I have an agenda regarding Illy politics.
no, this is rl politics of a sort that i hope to be mostly free of in the confines of illy. against ToS. 'nuff said.

Originally posted by GM Rikoo GM Rikoo wrote:

If anyone sees an issue with a particular player, all you need to do is send me a time it happened (game time, in the top-right corner) and the name of the person who did it.
good advice, because some things said in a particular context are ok and understood even if they might go widely astray in a more public venue. gc is public. sometimes players forget, and sometimes they don't care. devs' house, devs' rules on what constitutes appropriate in the public space. (note that no player names appear in the preceding sentence.)

Originally posted by GM Rikoo GM Rikoo wrote:

Players do not get to decide what is harassment, the developers do.
true once a complaint has been made. but players have a role in this, and that is to decide if something is worthy of the devs' consideration. use discretion. don't be a (insert offensive word of your choice).

Originally posted by GM Rikoo GM Rikoo wrote:

It's basically the same rules as real life!
just so.
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