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Since RE decided to grace us with their presence, I feel compelled to respond. So,
Rashidi siege: We broke the siege (as you said above) and the blockade forces were recalled. Hence why I said he recalled it. The siege is no longer there, I say it was a win.
 
Elites: we resorted to use elites to save our remaining infantry as we had figured out that PK would be stupid enough to try to storm with 1,300 t1 bows. RE, you need a proper storm force for a siege, more than 12k defensive units!
 
Villian: The loss is regretful, but the loss wasn't major.
 
Kentbird: Some of her cav was used in the small forest, the ratios were as expected and we have no regrets.
 
Killing cav behind walls: Congrats RE, you've killed some cavalry that was too far off to be helpful in real ops. In fact, I personally scouted all the cities that viper hit with 400 t2 scouts and got a report every time. Also very rich, isn't it? You celebrating about killing cav behind walls when aga killed a lot of PK's and jtk's when they tried to clear Mother of Darkness and your cav received 1:1 ratios with our kobolds. Each time you boost his defence score it boosts his ego you know, so be careful.
 
RE's roster losses: PK didn't consult his whole alliance when declaring war, and many have jumped ship because of that. Look at your alliance map, nearly all your cities are in westmarch now. Those strendur towns? you used to have more there. Coanhara? I swear you had a very good cluster from a military player there....
 
Rashidi's motives: Seems that from your post, Rashidi is an RE sat or alt that you hid in Loki. Why? Because you were too scared to move it into RE and you have to hide it. Very dirty guys, going to that length against "toddlers"?
 
As for your toddler comment: Yes, we are all illy toddlers. My account has been around for 2 months, similar to sigs. RE under PK has, and only ever will, pick on enemies it has a large advantage over because he is a coward. You have become a stale tournament alliance that declares on noob alliances near you (TheCo, SoE, Iron). You may want to bring up the fCrow v vCrow stuff, but really all RE members did there was bump up the roster and let PK waddle around shouting "This is my bit of BL!" while daddy Stukahh sat laughing and tugged on the kiddie reigns from time to time.
 
If RE feels we are out of troops, then resend on Hillend. 3rd times a charm?


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Originally posted by SPQR SPQR wrote:

Correction the raze army was killed, but the siege armies reinforcing are marching home so the notion that the blockade or siege was broken by iron forces is hilarious.

They spent all infantry and cavalry forces they had on hand, they broke rashidi siege but left the block with over 200k troops fully intact while the RE reinforcements were fully intact I did not have 1 report of an army being destroyed apart from the small raze force .

Rome and Rashidi are pleased by the results , once they were drained they stuck to small elites to try and break the siege, they could not even break the blockade numbering 50k troops which are marching home.

Villan moves in cities for them to get cleared, kentbitd used all her cavalry on Rashidi while viperone used 5k knights that he has left after depleting his cavalry forces direct attacking Westmarch cities !

Don't be fooled by the scoreboard the loss has been due to RE removing inactives and isolated accounts and newbies since that's all that iron could siege.

We had a siege in iron heartland for over 2 days , 3 days now while we recall.and did not have the numbers to break anything apart from Rashidi siege of t1 kobolts while he recalled with half his forces fully intact and ready to go !

Iron is like a todder have a big mouth but shows up with 5k stalwarts ? *ahem * king sigerius. Or hyde who.shows up with 2k Marshalls lol

That's all I will comment , any concerns or questions can be directed to Jaxie or patience king have a blessed day


Oh my. That's a whole lotta untrue presumptions.

I too am pleased by the results. Thank you for the great battle.
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Day 24. Thanks for all the commentary...makes the game more interesting!

Given the declaration of war by IRON on LOKI, I will be including LOKI on the RE side of the stats, at least until such time as things change. Note that the deltas will continue to be calculated against the original baseline numbers, meaning that the RE side will show a distinct uptick in most stats as a result of another alliance joining the fight on their side, willingly or not. If at some point peace between IRON and LOKI is reinstated, I will then remove LOKI from RE's stats.

Current Stats

Roman Empire & Allies
  Land Mem Towns Pop Atk Build Diplo Def
RE 2,863 43 274 3,813,441 21,427,433 3,012,018 723,750 6,056,486
LOKI 3,517 42 328 4,639,148 23,860,187 1,973,384 1,957,549 6,865,511
6,380 85 602 8,452,589 45,287,620 4,985,402 2,681,299 12,921,997

Iron Crusade
  Land Mem Towns Pop Atk Build Diplo Def
IRON 1,204 22 126 954,557 3,271,493 200,929 116,578 750,473
1,204 22 126 954,557 3,271,493 200,929 116,578 750,473

Numeric Delta

Roman Empire & Allies
  Land Mem Towns Pop Atk Build Diplo Def
RE -27 -15 -63 -459,125 551,618 42,781 65,715 1,020,689
LOKI 3,517 42 328 4,639,148 23,860,187 1,973,384 1,957,549 6,865,511
3,490 27 265 4,180,023 24,411,805 2,016,165 2,023,264 7,886,200

Iron Crusade
  Land Mem Towns Pop Atk Build Diplo Def
IRON 309 4 28 202,758 2,365,512 78,966 83,320 669,042
309 4 28 202,758 2,365,512 78,966 83,320 669,042

Percentage Delta

Roman Empire & Allies
  Land Mem Towns Pop Atk Build Diplo Def
RE -1% -26% -19% -11% 3% 1% 10% 20%
LOKI                
121% 47% 79% 98% 117% 68% 307% 157%

Iron Crusade
  Land Mem Towns Pop Atk Build Diplo Def
IRON 35% 22% 29% 27% 261% 65% 251% 822%
35% 22% 29% 27% 261% 65% 251% 822%


Edited by Mafro - 30 Dec 2017 at 19:43
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Day 27. I've moved my process from Excel to Google Sheets. If you'd like the raw data I'm collecting in spreadsheet form, or additional columns of data than what I post here, click the link below. And if you like having the data in spreadsheet format, click the "Thanks" link above or drop me a line in game so I know to keep doing it. :)


Current Stats

Roman Empire & Allies
LandMemTownsPopAtkBuildDiploDefMagic
RE2,928422703,813,17221,465,8123,018,597766,7206,060,14226,593,102
LOKI3,572423264,643,13324,135,9361,983,8461,959,9056,869,175226,776,981
6,500845968,456,30545,601,7485,002,4432,726,62512,929,317253,370,083

Iron Crusade
LandMemTownsPopAtkBuildDiploDefMagic
IRON1,23121117903,9553,304,146211,348117,408763,53313,802,829

Numeric Delta

Roman Empire & Allies
LandMemTownsPopAtkBuildDiploDefMagic
RE38-16-67-459,394589,99749,360108,6851,024,34553,327
LOKI3,572423264,643,13324,135,9361,983,8461,959,9056,869,175226,776,981
3,610262594,183,73924,725,9332,033,2062,068,5907,893,520226,830,308

Iron Crusade
LandMemTownsPopAtkBuildDiploDefMagic
IRON336319152,1562,398,16589,38584,150682,1021,835,999

Percentage Delta

Roman Empire & Allies
LandMemTownsPopAtkBuildDiploDefMagic
RE1%-28%-20%-11%3%2%17%20%0%
LOKI
125%45%77%98%118%68%314%157%855%

Iron Crusade
LandMemTownsPopAtkBuildDiploDefMagic
IRON38%17%19%20%265%73%253%838%15%



Edited by Mafro - 02 Jan 2018 at 20:49
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote viperone Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Jan 2018 at 01:35
Such hilarious nonsense posted from RE...my advice is not to dodge my remaining 5k cav...i love information that was not provided by scouts...weeeeeeeeee!   now where should i send and suicide my poor lonely 5k cav.....
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Day 28.

In response to a good question I received about the stats, if either side adds (or loses) a member, that account's current towns, population, etc. are added to (or removed from) that side's stats. As the new member wasn't part of the conflict at the time the baseline was captured (Dec 6th.), they're full strength has been added to a side (as opposed to a delta against whatever strength they might have had at the baseline date, which we almost certainly wouldn't know anyway).

This is true for LOKI, who is new to this war, and the stats reflect their current strength being added to the RE side, not a delta against some baseline.

And, yes, I'm now including Magic in what's being pasted here because coming from Google Sheets the font is smaller and it now fits. I actually find it kinda interesting (though I also don't really understand it).


Current Stats

Roman Empire & Allies
LandMemTownsPopAtkBuildDiploDefMagic
RE2,940402643,803,14721,468,7753,020,164768,9466,060,14226,593,102
LOKI3,572423274,651,41724,648,6881,986,9931,959,9356,869,545227,788,881
6,512825918,454,56446,117,4635,007,1572,728,88112,929,687254,381,983

Iron Crusade
LandMemTownsPopAtkBuildDiploDefMagic
IRON1,16521117900,9643,312,411214,290118,608763,53313,810,604

Numeric Delta

Roman Empire & Allies
LandMemTownsPopAtkBuildDiploDefMagic
RE50-18-73-469,419592,96050,927110,9111,024,34553,327
LOKI3,572423274,651,41724,648,6881,986,9931,959,9356,869,545227,788,881
3,622242544,181,99825,241,6482,037,9202,070,8467,893,890227,842,208

Iron Crusade
LandMemTownsPopAtkBuildDiploDefMagic
IRON270319149,1652,406,43092,32785,350682,1021,843,774

Percentage Delta

Roman Empire & Allies
LandMemTownsPopAtkBuildDiploDefMagic
RE2%-31%-22%-11%3%2%17%20%0%
LOKI
125%41%75%98%121%69%315%157%858%

Iron Crusade
LandMemTownsPopAtkBuildDiploDefMagic
IRON30%17%19%20%266%76%257%838%15%


Edited by Mafro - 03 Jan 2018 at 18:53
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Day 29.


Current Stats

Roman Empire & Allies
LandMemTownsPopAtkBuildDiploDefMagic
RE2,887402583,695,04821,537,2063,022,666769,5466,060,14226,593,102
LOKI3,653433374,738,84624,708,2471,991,0451,961,4556,872,787227,788,881
6,540835958,433,89446,245,4535,013,7112,731,00112,932,929254,381,983

Iron Crusade
LandMemTownsPopAtkBuildDiploDefMagic
IRON1,21021117895,4583,331,958219,814119,675855,32213,814,254

Numeric Delta

Roman Empire & Allies
LandMemTownsPopAtkBuildDiploDefMagic
RE-3-18-79-577,518661,39153,429111,5111,024,34553,327
LOKI3,653433374,738,84624,708,2471,991,0451,961,4556,872,787227,788,881
3,650252584,161,32825,369,6382,044,4742,072,9667,897,132227,842,208

Iron Crusade
LandMemTownsPopAtkBuildDiploDefMagic
IRON315319143,6592,425,97797,85186,417773,8911,847,424

Percentage Delta

Roman Empire & Allies
LandMemTownsPopAtkBuildDiploDefMagic
RE0%-31%-23%-14%3%2%17%20%0%
LOKI
126%43%77%97%122%69%315%157%858%

Iron Crusade
LandMemTownsPopAtkBuildDiploDefMagic
IRON35%17%19%19%268%80%260%950%15%



Edited by Mafro - 05 Jan 2018 at 07:27
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Although I am involved in another war, I do have a question.
Loki is also involved in that other war. Aren't you mixing up two statistics of two different wars?
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Originally posted by Cesena Cesena wrote:

Although I am involved in another war, I do have a question.
Loki is also involved in that other war. Aren't you mixing up two statistics of two different wars?

There's two separate threads and two separate spreadsheets containing two separate sets of stats for the two separate wars. It just so happens that LOKI is a participant in both wars. As a result, their stats are included in both wars. If they exit either war, or both, their stats will be removed from the appropriate spreadsheet(s).

That said, these stats don't really reflect how much they (or anyone) are attacking or being attacked in any war. However, I don't know a better way to track the relative strength of each war's participants...if you (or anyone) has a suggestion, I'm definitely open to it.

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Loki is involved in a lot of wars and I do not think this RE/IRON war has LOKI's full attention. Maybe just a few members.
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