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Topic: RE vs. IRON War Stats
Posted By: Mafro
Subject: RE vs. IRON War Stats
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2017 at 06:29
Here's a thread to keep track of the results of Roman Empire's war declaration against Iron Crusade. I'll be posting stats on the two sides periodically. Given the close relationship between RE and REBEL, I'll be including REBEL's stats as well. If any others join the war, please let me know and I'll include them.

Current Stats

Roman Empire & Allies
  Pop Mem Towns Land
RE 4,271,785 58 337 2,894
REBEL 1,128,439 28 123 827
5,400,224 86 460 3,721

Iron Crusade & Allies
  Pop Mem Towns Land
IRON 749,934 18 98 905
749,934 18 98 905



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Posted By: Hamsun
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2017 at 09:49
Those stats look kind of one-sided.  I guess I want to join IRON...


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Posted By: Ten Kulch
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2017 at 13:04
Yet again, I feel compelled to point out that population does not equate to military power. Population is just easier to measure directly, because alliances don't disclose their armies. The correlation of city size to army size might be acceptable for established tournament alliances, but the correlation is quite poor for military alliances.

What you really want to count are active players, and then count the cities of those players running 200-300% military sov (not food sov!). That gives a much better picture of who will enter a fight and sustain troop production until the end of a war.

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Posted By: Mafro
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2017 at 19:50
Updating the baseline stats to include more values including Atk, Def, and Diplo. Note that this data was pulled shortly before this post was made and any and all future comparisons will be made against this new data.

Current Stats

Roman Empire & Allies
  Land Mem Towns Pop Atk Build Diplo Def
RE 2,890 58 337 4,272,566 20,875,815 2,969,237 658,035 5,035,797
REBEL 816 28 123 1,129,964 3,126,493 427,707 196,257 196,013
3,706 86 460 5,402,530 24,002,308 3,396,944 854,292 5,231,810

Iron Crusade & Allies
  Land Mem Towns Pop Atk Build Diplo Def
IRON 895 18 98 751,799 905,981 121,963 33,258 81,431
895 18 98 751,799 905,981 121,963 33,258 81,431



Posted By: Mafro
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2017 at 22:41
And here's what a day looks like in the Roman Empire vs. Iron Crusade war, including Atk, Def, and Diplo scores.

Current Stats

Roman Empire & Allies
  Land Mem Towns Pop Atk Build Diplo Def
RE 2,904 58 337 4,262,872 20,936,142 2,972,136 658,055 5,057,272
REBEL 829 28 124 1,139,279 3,185,507 429,739 196,267 196,013
3,733 86 461 5,402,151 24,121,649 3,401,875 854,322 5,253,285

Iron Crusade & Allies
  Land Mem Towns Pop Atk Build Diplo Def
IRON 918 20 104 774,258 950,325 124,990 33,904 175,836
918 20 104 774,258 950,325 124,990 33,904 175,836

Numeric Delta

Roman Empire & Allies
  Land Mem Towns Pop Atk Build Diplo Def
RE 14 0 0 -9,694 60,327 2,899 20 21,475
REBEL 13 0 1 9,315 59,014 2,032 10 0
27 0 1 -379 119,341 4,931 30 21,475

Iron Crusade & Allies
  Land Mem Towns Pop Atk Build Diplo Def
IRON 23 2 6 22,459 44,344 3,027 646 94,405
23 2 6 22,459 44,344 3,027 646 94,405

Percentage Delta

Roman Empire & Allies
  Land Mem Towns Pop Atk Build Diplo Def
RE 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0%
REBEL 2% 0% 1% 1% 2% 0% 0% 0%
1% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0%

Iron Crusade & Allies
  Land Mem Towns Pop Atk Build Diplo Def
IRON 3% 11% 6% 3% 5% 2% 2% 116%
3% 11% 6% 3% 5% 2% 2% 116%



Posted By: Mafro
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2017 at 18:44
Day 12. If anyone with insights would care to provide commentary, that would be welcome.

Current Stats

Roman Empire & Allies
  Land Mem Towns Pop Atk Build Diplo Def
RE 2,774 44 276 3,803,970 21,112,682 2,991,073 670,110 5,456,775
REBEL 855 32 136 1,156,265 3,336,557 450,573 198,635 198,030
3,629 76 412 4,960,235 24,449,239 3,441,646 868,745 5,654,805

Iron Crusade & Allies
  Land Mem Towns Pop Atk Build Diplo Def
IRON 1,161 20 115 922,242 1,555,859 165,544 50,497 422,325
1,161 20 115 922,242 1,555,859 165,544 50,497 422,325

Numeric Delta

Roman Empire & Allies
  Land Mem Towns Pop Atk Build Diplo Def
RE -116 -14 -61 -468,596 236,867 21,836 12,075 420,978
REBEL 39 4 13 26,301 210,064 22,866 2,378 2,017
-77 -10 -48 -442,295 446,931 44,702 14,453 422,995

Iron Crusade & Allies
  Land Mem Towns Pop Atk Build Diplo Def
IRON 266 2 17 170,443 649,878 43,581 17,239 340,894
266 2 17 170,443 649,878 43,581 17,239 340,894

Percentage Delta

Roman Empire & Allies
 LandMemTownsPopAtkBuildDiploDef
RE-4%-24%-18%-11%1%1%2%8%
REBEL5%14%11%2%7%5%1%1%
-2%-12%-10%-8%2%1%2%8%

Iron Crusade & Allies
 LandMemTownsPopAtkBuildDiploDef
IRON30%11%17%23%72%36%52%419%
30%11%17%23%72%36%52%419%


Posted By: Hyde
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2017 at 20:16
Since there seems to be a big lack of news source (*cough* Illytimes I want you backWink) Then I will put up all the notable stuff that has happened since the start of war. And yes, I am a member of Iron but I will try and stay non bias.
 
- RE mounted a siege against Spektor's Hillend numbering less than 200k troops. It was broken by Hell & Iron forces, as per an agreement before the war for Hell to defend us while we are setting up, and RE declared on Hell. Hell has since come to a separate arrangement with RE to not attack anymore RE sieges, and have exited conflict.
- Several Iron members such as WALLIS and Viperone have been working independently, removing cities outside RE's landclaim by sieging or negotiating with them. After some of the smaller sieges landed, the players were kicked or left RE. A few minor razes have been secured with no RE siege breaks.
- Patience King has exo'd a city out of The Long White away from an Iron attack
- Iron has continued to move cities into Aindara.
 
There has been nothing else major, just the usual diplo missions and attacks from either side.


Posted By: Tucic
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2017 at 20:11
I like how REBEL is in there but not YARR or HORDE. We are not apart of this conflict and the numbers are just getting inflated on RE side. Why are Aesir? Hell? and SAINT? not on that list? 

So would ask you please take REBEL off to show a more accurate number of who is fighting instead of inflating numbers. 

Thank you 


Posted By: Mafro
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2017 at 22:26
Originally posted by Tucic Tucic wrote:

I like how REBEL is in there but not YARR or HORDE. We are not apart of this conflict and the numbers are just getting inflated on RE side. Why are Aesir? Hell? and SAINT? not on that list? 

So would ask you please take REBEL off to show a more accurate number of who is fighting instead of inflating numbers. 

Thank you 

Hi Tucic, I included REBEL in the initial numbers I posted because RE and REBEL describe each other as "sister alliances" and because both alliances have the following text on their summary pages: "any Confederations signed are expected to mutually defend each other when called upon."

That said, I have no clue who is fighting whom...I just like numbers...and so I requested any insights in to what is actually happening be shared. Given that you lead REBEL and have stated that you're not part of the conflict, I will, of course, remove REBEL from any future updates I may post.

Regarding the other alliances you mentioned, I've only heard HELL mentioned in a previous post as having "exited conflict", so I wasn't intending to include them in future posts. As for the other alliances, if they (or any others) are participating in the war, then I'd ask their leadership to post a confirmation here so that I may include them going forward. Do it for posterity...do it for the children.

Best,

Mafro


Posted By: Mafro
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2017 at 22:34
Day 21. At Tucic's request I have excluded REBEL from this set of numbers, including removing them from the baseline numbers that deltas are calculated against. Thus, it is as if they were never a part of this conflict (which apparently they weren't!). Apologies for any confusion this may cause.

Current Stats

Roman Empire
  Land Mem Towns Pop Atk Build Diplo Def
RE 2,882 44 276 3,808,329 21,264,615 3,001,896 688,392 5,672,584

Iron Crusade
  Land Mem Towns Pop Atk Build Diplo Def
IRON 1,186 21 122 947,057 2,032,614 185,440 57,083 654,549

Numeric Delta

Roman Empire
  Land Mem Towns Pop Atk Build Diplo Def
RE -8 -14 -61 -464,237 388,800 32,659 30,357 636,787

Iron Crusade
  Land Mem Towns Pop Atk Build Diplo Def
IRON 291 3 24 195,258 1,126,633 63,477 23,825 573,118

Percentage Delta

Roman Empire
  Land Mem Towns Pop Atk Build Diplo Def
RE 0% -24% -18% -11% 2% 1% 5% 13%

Iron Crusade
  Land Mem Towns Pop Atk Build Diplo Def
IRON 33% 17% 24% 26% 124% 52% 72% 704%


Posted By: Tucic
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2017 at 07:44
No worries Mafro and thank you. i love statistics. Math is one of the few universal languages that we can all understand. (for the most part.)

And yes, we were never apart of this conflict and no apologies needed. You were just doing stats!

Hope you are well and have a great new year everyone. 

Dont miss the moon on the 1st!!!!!

T and Friends 




Posted By: Whakomatic
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2017 at 07:42
I suggest you sum the numbers from here by alliance:
http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/#/World/HeraldMilitary" rel="nofollow - http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/#/World/HeraldMilitary

and the defense page.

That will get you actual losses on each side.


Posted By: Mafro
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2017 at 18:52
Originally posted by Whakomatic Whakomatic wrote:

I suggest you sum the numbers from here by alliance:
http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/#/World/HeraldMilitary" rel="nofollow - http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/#/World/HeraldMilitary

and the defense page.

That will get you actual losses on each side.

It's a good thought...and a shame there's not an easier way to get accurate tallies of losses on each side. In this case, if I understand you correctly, it would need to be done daily (from the Battles Yesterday section), and that would only grab the "top" battles of the day, leaving out any and all others. It would also require a fair amount of copying and pasting as well as some intelligent restructuring of the data each day to group it appropriately.

In the case of the data I have been posting, to get it literally requires me to copy and paste twice (once for RE, once for IRON) from the Alliance Leaderboard into a spreadsheet that automagically does all the other calculations. It takes about 30 seconds. In fact, it takes far longer to format the forum post than it does to grab the data.

That being the case, if someone else wants to sign up to grab daily battle stats for the major alliances that are at war, be my guest.... Wink


Posted By: Hyde
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2017 at 13:01
So thought I'd add a quick update for all those interested and to explain the rise in the stats:
 
- Early on the 28th Iron came under fire from a siege from RE, again against Spektor's Hillend I and also a siege from Rashidi of Loki against Karl Aegis's Rime Berta.
- Rashihi's siege was first to fall, being recalled and was a very impressive siege force from a single player. The motive behind sending the siege is still unknown, and in response to this Iron declared war on Loki.
- The RE siege was dealt with second, as it was the smaller of the two sieges. 'Hillend I' was under siege for a two day period, before PK's 1,300 archer storm force was killed at the gates. As I am writing this the siege forces are being recalled from around Hillend.
- All forces used to kill the sieges were Iron troops.
- Iron continue to move cities into Aindara.
 
Big smile


Posted By: DeliciousJosh
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2017 at 13:15
How much cav was used to kill the forest sieges?

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Posted By: Hyde
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2017 at 14:10
More than a little, less than a lot  Tongue


Posted By: SPQR
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2017 at 14:55
Correction the raze army was killed, but the siege armies reinforcing are marching home so the notion that the blockade or siege was broken by iron forces is hilarious.

They spent all infantry and cavalry forces they had on hand, they broke rashidi siege but left the block with over 200k troops fully intact while the RE reinforcements were fully intact I did not have 1 report of an army being destroyed apart from the small raze force .

Rome and Rashidi are pleased by the results , once they were drained they stuck to small elites to try and break the siege, they could not even break the blockade numbering 50k troops which are marching home.

Villan moves in cities for them to get cleared, kentbitd used all her cavalry on Rashidi while viperone used 5k knights that he has left after depleting his cavalry forces direct attacking Westmarch cities !

Don't be fooled by the scoreboard the loss has been due to RE removing inactives and isolated accounts and newbies since that's all that iron could siege.

We had a siege in iron heartland for over 2 days , 3 days now while we recall.and did not have the numbers to break anything apart from Rashidi siege of t1 kobolts while he recalled with half his forces fully intact and ready to go !

Iron is like a todder have a big mouth but shows up with 5k stalwarts ? *ahem * king sigerius. Or hyde who.shows up with 2k Marshalls lol

That's all I will comment , any concerns or questions can be directed to Jaxie or patience king have a blessed day


Posted By: Dessembrae
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2017 at 15:00
Originally posted by DeliciousJosh DeliciousJosh wrote:

How much cav was used to kill the forest sieges?

A lot less cavalry than you and pico used to to siege he-man in Kul-tar a couple years ago, wanna remind us how much you used then?


Posted By: Dessembrae
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2017 at 15:05
Originally posted by SPQR SPQR wrote:



Iron is like a todder have a big mouth but shows up with 5k stalwarts ? *ahem * king sigerius. Or hyde who.shows up with 2k Marshalls lol

That's all I will comment , any concerns or questions can be directed to Jaxie or patience king have a blessed day

I lost my pacifier... Beware!!!!!


Posted By: King Sigerius
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2017 at 15:16
King Sig killed 30k of your troops and got 50k exp from those 5k stals :P  Iron and myself have a lot more inf where that came from.  Also I had a few more stals marching and got another decent kill after you failed your raze.  http://prntscr.com/hu7cbj" rel="nofollow - http://prntscr.com/hu7cbj re cav defending on a forest? There was a decent amount of them. A few members seige timers ran out during the seige. Was a decent seige re I'll give you that, but all the troops in the world won't get you a raze if you if don't know how to use them.  And of course some re member signs up to the forums to troll without using his real account name. Btw, Aga, I told you re was going to try and justify their loss. :P     -The Big Mouth Toddler, who didn't have to send many troops because re sucks.


Posted By: Hyde
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2017 at 15:29
Since RE decided to grace us with their presence, I feel compelled to respond. So,
Rashidi siege: We broke the siege (as you said above) and the blockade forces were recalled. Hence why I said he recalled it. The siege is no longer there, I say it was a win.
 
Elites: we resorted to use elites to save our remaining infantry as we had figured out that PK would be stupid enough to try to storm with 1,300 t1 bows. RE, you need a proper storm force for a siege, more than 12k defensive units!
 
Villian: The loss is regretful, but the loss wasn't major.
 
Kentbird: Some of her cav was used in the small forest, the ratios were as expected and we have no regrets.
 
Killing cav behind walls: Congrats RE, you've killed some cavalry that was too far off to be helpful in real ops. In fact, I personally scouted all the cities that viper hit with 400 t2 scouts and got a report every time. Also very rich, isn't it? You celebrating about killing cav behind walls when aga killed a lot of PK's and jtk's when they tried to clear Mother of Darkness and your cav received 1:1 ratios with our kobolds. Each time you boost his defence score it boosts his ego you know, so be careful.
 
RE's roster losses: PK didn't consult his whole alliance when declaring war, and many have jumped ship because of that. Look at your alliance map, nearly all your cities are in westmarch now. Those strendur towns? you used to have more there. Coanhara? I swear you had a very good cluster from a military player there....
 
Rashidi's motives: Seems that from your post, Rashidi is an RE sat or alt that you hid in Loki. Why? Because you were too scared to move it into RE and you have to hide it. Very dirty guys, going to that length against "toddlers"?
 
As for your toddler comment: Yes, we are all illy toddlers. My account has been around for 2 months, similar to sigs. RE under PK has, and only ever will, pick on enemies it has a large advantage over because he is a coward. You have become a stale tournament alliance that declares on noob alliances near you (TheCo, SoE, Iron). You may want to bring up the fCrow v vCrow stuff, but really all RE members did there was bump up the roster and let PK waddle around shouting "This is my bit of BL!" while daddy Stukahh sat laughing and tugged on the kiddie reigns from time to time.
 
If RE feels we are out of troops, then resend on Hillend. 3rd times a charm?


Posted By: spektor
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2017 at 15:32
Originally posted by SPQR SPQR wrote:

Correction the raze army was killed, but the siege armies reinforcing are marching home so the notion that the blockade or siege was broken by iron forces is hilarious.

They spent all infantry and cavalry forces they had on hand, they broke rashidi siege but left the block with over 200k troops fully intact while the RE reinforcements were fully intact I did not have 1 report of an army being destroyed apart from the small raze force .

Rome and Rashidi are pleased by the results , once they were drained they stuck to small elites to try and break the siege, they could not even break the blockade numbering 50k troops which are marching home.

Villan moves in cities for them to get cleared, kentbitd used all her cavalry on Rashidi while viperone used 5k knights that he has left after depleting his cavalry forces direct attacking Westmarch cities !

Don't be fooled by the scoreboard the loss has been due to RE removing inactives and isolated accounts and newbies since that's all that iron could siege.

We had a siege in iron heartland for over 2 days , 3 days now while we recall.and did not have the numbers to break anything apart from Rashidi siege of t1 kobolts while he recalled with half his forces fully intact and ready to go !

Iron is like a todder have a big mouth but shows up with 5k stalwarts ? *ahem * king sigerius. Or hyde who.shows up with 2k Marshalls lol

That's all I will comment , any concerns or questions can be directed to Jaxie or patience king have a blessed day


Oh my. That's a whole lotta untrue presumptions.

I too am pleased by the results. Thank you for the great battle.


Posted By: Mafro
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2017 at 19:42
Day 24. Thanks for all the commentary...makes the game more interesting!

Given the declaration of war by IRON on LOKI, I will be including LOKI on the RE side of the stats, at least until such time as things change. Note that the deltas will continue to be calculated against the original baseline numbers, meaning that the RE side will show a distinct uptick in most stats as a result of another alliance joining the fight on their side, willingly or not. If at some point peace between IRON and LOKI is reinstated, I will then remove LOKI from RE's stats.

Current Stats

Roman Empire & Allies
  Land Mem Towns Pop Atk Build Diplo Def
RE 2,863 43 274 3,813,441 21,427,433 3,012,018 723,750 6,056,486
LOKI 3,517 42 328 4,639,148 23,860,187 1,973,384 1,957,549 6,865,511
6,380 85 602 8,452,589 45,287,620 4,985,402 2,681,299 12,921,997

Iron Crusade
  Land Mem Towns Pop Atk Build Diplo Def
IRON 1,204 22 126 954,557 3,271,493 200,929 116,578 750,473
1,204 22 126 954,557 3,271,493 200,929 116,578 750,473

Numeric Delta

Roman Empire & Allies
  Land Mem Towns Pop Atk Build Diplo Def
RE -27 -15 -63 -459,125 551,618 42,781 65,715 1,020,689
LOKI 3,517 42 328 4,639,148 23,860,187 1,973,384 1,957,549 6,865,511
3,490 27 265 4,180,023 24,411,805 2,016,165 2,023,264 7,886,200

Iron Crusade
  Land Mem Towns Pop Atk Build Diplo Def
IRON 309 4 28 202,758 2,365,512 78,966 83,320 669,042
309 4 28 202,758 2,365,512 78,966 83,320 669,042

Percentage Delta

Roman Empire & Allies
  Land Mem Towns Pop Atk Build Diplo Def
RE -1% -26% -19% -11% 3% 1% 10% 20%
LOKI                
121% 47% 79% 98% 117% 68% 307% 157%

Iron Crusade
  Land Mem Towns Pop Atk Build Diplo Def
IRON 35% 22% 29% 27% 261% 65% 251% 822%
35% 22% 29% 27% 261% 65% 251% 822%


Posted By: Mafro
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2018 at 20:46
Day 27. I've moved my process from Excel to Google Sheets. If you'd like the raw data I'm collecting in spreadsheet form, or additional columns of data than what I post here, click the link below. And if you like having the data in spreadsheet format, click the "Thanks" link above or drop me a line in game so I know to keep doing it. :)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BkYHOJEBXzkFcMEwQnb_7WQtqexn0PBkMglsNQJyjIo/edit?usp=sharing" rel="nofollow - RE-IRON War Stats

Current Stats

Roman Empire & Allies
LandMemTownsPopAtkBuildDiploDefMagic
RE2,928422703,813,17221,465,8123,018,597766,7206,060,14226,593,102
LOKI3,572423264,643,13324,135,9361,983,8461,959,9056,869,175226,776,981
6,500845968,456,30545,601,7485,002,4432,726,62512,929,317253,370,083

Iron Crusade
LandMemTownsPopAtkBuildDiploDefMagic
IRON1,23121117903,9553,304,146211,348117,408763,53313,802,829

Numeric Delta

Roman Empire & Allies
LandMemTownsPopAtkBuildDiploDefMagic
RE38-16-67-459,394589,99749,360108,6851,024,34553,327
LOKI3,572423264,643,13324,135,9361,983,8461,959,9056,869,175226,776,981
3,610262594,183,73924,725,9332,033,2062,068,5907,893,520226,830,308

Iron Crusade
LandMemTownsPopAtkBuildDiploDefMagic
IRON336319152,1562,398,16589,38584,150682,1021,835,999

Percentage Delta

Roman Empire & Allies
LandMemTownsPopAtkBuildDiploDefMagic
RE1%-28%-20%-11%3%2%17%20%0%
LOKI
125%45%77%98%118%68%314%157%855%

Iron Crusade
LandMemTownsPopAtkBuildDiploDefMagic
IRON38%17%19%20%265%73%253%838%15%



Posted By: viperone
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2018 at 01:35
Such hilarious nonsense posted from RE...my advice is not to dodge my remaining 5k cav...i love information that was not provided by scouts...weeeeeeeeee!   now where should i send and suicide my poor lonely 5k cav.....


Posted By: Mafro
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2018 at 18:52
Day 28.

In response to a good question I received about the stats, if either side adds (or loses) a member, that account's current towns, population, etc. are added to (or removed from) that side's stats. As the new member wasn't part of the conflict at the time the baseline was captured (Dec 6th.), they're full strength has been added to a side (as opposed to a delta against whatever strength they might have had at the baseline date, which we almost certainly wouldn't know anyway).

This is true for LOKI, who is new to this war, and the stats reflect their current strength being added to the RE side, not a delta against some baseline.

And, yes, I'm now including Magic in what's being pasted here because coming from Google Sheets the font is smaller and it now fits. I actually find it kinda interesting (though I also don't really understand it).

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BkYHOJEBXzkFcMEwQnb_7WQtqexn0PBkMglsNQJyjIo/edit?usp=sharing" rel="nofollow - RE-IRON War Stats

Current Stats

Roman Empire & Allies
LandMemTownsPopAtkBuildDiploDefMagic
RE2,940402643,803,14721,468,7753,020,164768,9466,060,14226,593,102
LOKI3,572423274,651,41724,648,6881,986,9931,959,9356,869,545227,788,881
6,512825918,454,56446,117,4635,007,1572,728,88112,929,687254,381,983

Iron Crusade
LandMemTownsPopAtkBuildDiploDefMagic
IRON1,16521117900,9643,312,411214,290118,608763,53313,810,604

Numeric Delta

Roman Empire & Allies
LandMemTownsPopAtkBuildDiploDefMagic
RE50-18-73-469,419592,96050,927110,9111,024,34553,327
LOKI3,572423274,651,41724,648,6881,986,9931,959,9356,869,545227,788,881
3,622242544,181,99825,241,6482,037,9202,070,8467,893,890227,842,208

Iron Crusade
LandMemTownsPopAtkBuildDiploDefMagic
IRON270319149,1652,406,43092,32785,350682,1021,843,774

Percentage Delta

Roman Empire & Allies
LandMemTownsPopAtkBuildDiploDefMagic
RE2%-31%-22%-11%3%2%17%20%0%
LOKI
125%41%75%98%121%69%315%157%858%

Iron Crusade
LandMemTownsPopAtkBuildDiploDefMagic
IRON30%17%19%20%266%76%257%838%15%


Posted By: Mafro
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2018 at 07:26
Day 29.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BkYHOJEBXzkFcMEwQnb_7WQtqexn0PBkMglsNQJyjIo/edit?usp=sharing" rel="nofollow - RE-IRON War Stats

Current Stats

Roman Empire & Allies
LandMemTownsPopAtkBuildDiploDefMagic
RE2,887402583,695,04821,537,2063,022,666769,5466,060,14226,593,102
LOKI3,653433374,738,84624,708,2471,991,0451,961,4556,872,787227,788,881
6,540835958,433,89446,245,4535,013,7112,731,00112,932,929254,381,983

Iron Crusade
LandMemTownsPopAtkBuildDiploDefMagic
IRON1,21021117895,4583,331,958219,814119,675855,32213,814,254

Numeric Delta

Roman Empire & Allies
LandMemTownsPopAtkBuildDiploDefMagic
RE-3-18-79-577,518661,39153,429111,5111,024,34553,327
LOKI3,653433374,738,84624,708,2471,991,0451,961,4556,872,787227,788,881
3,650252584,161,32825,369,6382,044,4742,072,9667,897,132227,842,208

Iron Crusade
LandMemTownsPopAtkBuildDiploDefMagic
IRON315319143,6592,425,97797,85186,417773,8911,847,424

Percentage Delta

Roman Empire & Allies
LandMemTownsPopAtkBuildDiploDefMagic
RE0%-31%-23%-14%3%2%17%20%0%
LOKI
126%43%77%97%122%69%315%157%858%

Iron Crusade
LandMemTownsPopAtkBuildDiploDefMagic
IRON35%17%19%19%268%80%260%950%15%



Posted By: Cesena
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2018 at 21:43
Although I am involved in another war, I do have a question.
Loki is also involved in that other war. Aren't you mixing up two statistics of two different wars?


Posted By: Mafro
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2018 at 01:22
Originally posted by Cesena Cesena wrote:

Although I am involved in another war, I do have a question.
Loki is also involved in that other war. Aren't you mixing up two statistics of two different wars?

There's two separate threads and two separate spreadsheets containing two separate sets of stats for the two separate wars. It just so happens that LOKI is a participant in both wars. As a result, their stats are included in both wars. If they exit either war, or both, their stats will be removed from the appropriate spreadsheet(s).

That said, these stats don't really reflect how much they (or anyone) are attacking or being attacked in any war. However, I don't know a better way to track the relative strength of each war's participants...if you (or anyone) has a suggestion, I'm definitely open to it.

Yours,

Mafro


Posted By: digiosox
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2018 at 05:24
Loki is involved in a lot of wars and I do not think this RE/IRON war has LOKI's full attention. Maybe just a few members.


Posted By: Mafro
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2018 at 06:52
Day 30.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BkYHOJEBXzkFcMEwQnb_7WQtqexn0PBkMglsNQJyjIo/edit?usp=sharing" rel="nofollow - RE-IRON War Stats


Posted By: Mafro
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2018 at 04:19
Day 31.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BkYHOJEBXzkFcMEwQnb_7WQtqexn0PBkMglsNQJyjIo/edit?usp=sharing" rel="nofollow - RE-IRON War Stats


Posted By: Mafro
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2018 at 06:20
Day 33.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BkYHOJEBXzkFcMEwQnb_7WQtqexn0PBkMglsNQJyjIo/edit?usp=sharing" rel="nofollow - RE-IRON War Stats


Posted By: Mafro
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2018 at 02:36
Day 34. Got something new to add to the mix, thanks to Tensmoor...a list of all players who have joined or left the alliances participating in this war, since our baseline date of December 6th. Thanks Tens!!! :)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BkYHOJEBXzkFcMEwQnb_7WQtqexn0PBkMglsNQJyjIo/edit?usp=sharing" rel="nofollow - RE-IRON War Stats

Click below to see all war runners, surrendered players, and abandoned accounts, as well as those who have bravely joined in the struggle...!

http://durctools2.dewt.co.uk/html/memberTracker2.html" rel="nofollow - Warring Alliances Cowards & Heroes!

Yeah, I know you're not all either cowards or heroes...but "Alliance Membership Delta Tracker" didn't quite have the same ring. Wink


Posted By: Mafro
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2018 at 05:11
Day 36.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BkYHOJEBXzkFcMEwQnb_7WQtqexn0PBkMglsNQJyjIo/edit?usp=sharing" rel="nofollow - RE-IRON War Stats

http://durctools2.dewt.co.uk/html/memberTracker2.html" rel="nofollow - RE-IRON Cowards & Heroes!


Posted By: Mafro
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2018 at 08:20
Day 37.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BkYHOJEBXzkFcMEwQnb_7WQtqexn0PBkMglsNQJyjIo/edit?usp=sharing" rel="nofollow - RE-IRON War Stats

http://durctools2.dewt.co.uk/html/memberTracker2.html" rel="nofollow - RE-IRON War Cowards & Heroes!


Posted By: Mafro
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2018 at 04:50
Day 38. Change in the stats with this war has been fairly slow and steady. Since the beginning of the year, IRON has added 4 towns and 36k population, while RE has lost 8 towns and 88k population. Any informed insights welcome!

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BkYHOJEBXzkFcMEwQnb_7WQtqexn0PBkMglsNQJyjIo/edit?usp=sharing" rel="nofollow - RE-IRON War Stats

http://durctools2.dewt.co.uk/html/memberTracker2.html" rel="nofollow - RE-IRON War Cowards & Heroes!


Posted By: Hyde
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2018 at 14:44
Well... nothing major has happened really. The gain of towns is from exoing into Aindara and pop growth from building up cities out of exodus.
 
There was a skirmish outside Karl Aegis's Golden Dawn (which I am still unsure about what it was on REs part, genuinely curious) and since Spektor wasn't being sieged, he got bored and did a hit-and-run 2 army siege of Jaxie's Bulfontien where we managed to get in 3 bombardments as planned before recall.


Posted By: Mafro
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2018 at 04:46
Day 39.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BkYHOJEBXzkFcMEwQnb_7WQtqexn0PBkMglsNQJyjIo/edit?usp=sharing" rel="nofollow - RE-IRON War Stats

http://durctools2.dewt.co.uk/html/memberTracker2.html" rel="nofollow - RE-IRON War Cowards & Heroes!


Posted By: Jaxie
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2018 at 07:19
When i get bored I dont send a 'hit and run' siege where i lose most of my siege engines plus pretty much all of the defense that was sent with it to cover it. I'm not going to quote numbers, I dont do tit for tat or trolling, but if you are going to give 'impartial' news make it accurate please :)


Posted By: spektor
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2018 at 00:40
Originally posted by Jaxie Jaxie wrote:

When i get bored I dont send a 'hit and run' siege where i lose most of my siege engines plus pretty much all of the defense that was sent with it to cover it. I'm not going to quote numbers, I dont do tit for tat or trolling, but if you are going to give 'impartial' news make it accurate please :)


I can confirm that Hyde's account of the situation is accurate.


Posted By: Jaxie
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2018 at 06:44
lol so why not post the numbers that you lost when you got 'bored'. Losing virtually all of a large siege army plus substantial defense is hardly hit and run........


Posted By: viperone
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2018 at 08:30
Large siege army? pffft.....this from an alliance that sends a 'fake' siege, fails to raze on another siege, and loses a third siege within 20 minutes of landing...when we send a serious siege you will know it

skips away merrily down the bunny trail...lalalalala


Posted By: spektor
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2018 at 12:56
Originally posted by Jaxie Jaxie wrote:

... I dont do ... trolling...


Hmmmmmm


Posted By: Jaxie
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2018 at 18:26
lol, you still don't want to post the numbers though do you. Well enjoy yourselves gents, time will tell after all. We will just have to wait and see what happens wont we.


Posted By: Hyde
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2018 at 19:09
Originally posted by Jaxie Jaxie wrote:

of a large siege army
the colossal number of 35k sents
 
Originally posted by Jaxie Jaxie wrote:

plus substantial defense
 
an unbelievable 14k t2 spears
 


Posted By: King Sigerius
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2018 at 19:31
^ Hahahaha if that's a large seige army you should just surrender now.


Posted By: KarL Aegis
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2018 at 03:05
For the record, you can't throw out some bait in the same sentence you say you don't troll. There has to be a period in between.

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I am not amused.


Posted By: OssianII
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2018 at 11:45
Originally posted by KarL Aegis KarL Aegis wrote:

For the record, you can't throw out some bait in the same sentence you say you don't troll. There has to be a period in between.

A word to the wise. 

The first rule of Trolling - SKIP THE RULE BOOK! Big smile



OssianII
Best GM Illyriad Never Had (ret'd) Tongue


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Scientia potentia est


Posted By: Mafro
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2018 at 15:06
Day 43.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BkYHOJEBXzkFcMEwQnb_7WQtqexn0PBkMglsNQJyjIo/edit?usp=sharing" rel="nofollow - RE-IRON War Stats

http://durctools2.dewt.co.uk/html/memberTracker2.html" rel="nofollow - RE-IRON War Cowards & Heroes!



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