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Call to all Alliances

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Forum Name: Trade Chat
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Topic: Call to all Alliances
Posted By: Kilotov V2.0
Subject: Call to all Alliances
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2012 at 00:03
Greetings dear Ladies and distinguished Gentleman. 
i hereby call all alliances to collaboration and help, for there are things we all are interested to know.
the reason is quite simple actually, and i much want to hear what you all think about this.
this project may be ambitious, but would be of great help for everyone.
simply i call all alliances to share their planes for trade hubs.
goal would be to have more "active" trade hubs outside from the decadent hub of centrum. 
if we would be to split the world map in a 3x3 square, we would have 9 "sectors". 
i wish for the alliances all around to discuss and brainstorm in the quest to find and define the 9 hubs, in a way that suits the regional inhabitants of the region. 
to define this is the next step we as community have to make in order to fully be able to profit from inter-alliance collaboration, and it would be also a great tool for the growing folks that want to go the trade way.

Posted By: dunnoob
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2012 at 00:40
There's a problem with your suggestion:  No matter what other folks say, wrt taxes Grovinton is the best hub for me, it's also near to my old capital.  OTOH, if the South-East decides that Blackbriar is their best hub I couldn't use it with my standing below -35.  Apparently folks in the South go to Port Tal, while folks in the South-East stick to their various nearest hubs.  I think there will be more than 9 popular hubs.

Posted By: Kilotov V2.0
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2012 at 00:45
indeed, but you can not deny the handiness of such a idea. i do not say to use only the "9" hubs, but to have 9 as "inter alliance platforms". 
you have to admit, it would be pretty handy as a tool, to have such a global network. 

Posted By: Meagh
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2012 at 02:25
The Barracks in Windlost is being actively used now by several alliances in the region.

Posted By: Rill
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2012 at 02:56
I have a trader at the Barracks

Posted By: Sisren
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2012 at 03:50
Duntheleasea is also seeing activity in the west, as well as the 2 in Keppen.

Illy is different from Physics-
Reactions are rarely Equal, and rarely the opposite of what you'd expect...

Posted By: Magnifico G
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2012 at 12:54
I like this proposal, mainly because it provides a greater distribution of trade hubs across the maps and will further promote trade as part of game play in Illyriad.  I like the idea of making trade more accessable  to newcomers (or restarters like me lol) .
For me the two developments that "pin" alliances to the land and the map are "sovereignty" and "trade" and I hope that the community embraces  both these paths because  imo, in terms of gameplay,  They are best way forward through the sandbox that is "Illyriad".
I think though that this proposal is a trifle ambitious and yet it doesn't need the collaboration of all alliances to work so it is achievable.
Certainly it is an exciting development and it will take the beneifts of trading deals closer to a system that is run by the community for the community. There will be 9 hubs or so and so that will provide some diversity in terms of prices and availblilty...
....there are federations such as Consone and the Crow family which could make this proposal a feasable one.

Posted By: geofrey
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2012 at 16:27
Humayan in the South East is being used by Affirmative Action, as well as other prominent alliances in the Zanpur region. 

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Posted By: Kumomoto
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2012 at 18:38
Port Tal is being used my most of the alliances in the South...

Posted By: Kilotov V2.0
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2012 at 12:49
so far we have:

 in The Western Realms

544|466 in Windlost
The Barracks

635|-534 in Zanpur

-302|-763 in Tallimar
Port Tal

Posted By: Yeesha D'ni
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2012 at 17:39
I'd like to promote Kilotov's suggestion, as it occured to me frustrating to send traders around Elgea without seeing many blooming hubs.
Therefor I can only support the idea of actively shaping the market as we want it.
At the moment I personally run a project, to envive the "Zhuhai trade hub" as a local hub. It got lots of nice feedbacks from all over the allies and seems promising ...

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As I considered the Pro's of a local eastern trade hub there extensively, I won't do it here again.
Hope lots of you join this project. See your traders and goods soon ....
                                     Zhuhai  (Laoshin at 846 / 229) 

Posted By: Loud Whispers
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2012 at 17:46
Originally posted by Kumomoto Kumomoto wrote:

Port Tal is being used my most of the alliances in the South...
StA and H? mostly, but it's turned into a more general Southern trade hub now. Illy geographics work in wonderful ways.

Posted By: Kilotov V2.0
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2012 at 11:26
so, i have sent a trader to the barracks, and i am disappointed. it sucks, ladies and gentleman. 

Posted By: Yhina
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2012 at 12:34
were you expecting another "centrum" ?   considering the first trader is "wine-free", it might take a while for the mass to expand to other hubs...

Posted By: Spheniscidae
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2012 at 13:04
For the north-east (Laoshin, Tamarin, Qarosslan, even Ursor): How about Qi Quien? It has neutral faction standing for all races, and is probably the only faction hub in the north-east that isn't Orc or lizard people. 

(Was also considering the Barracks...but the Barracks is on an island. For those people without access to the rivers/sea, that might pose some problems with access when/if pathfinding ever comes out.)

Posted By: Yeesha D'ni
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2012 at 14:08
As I wrote in another thread, the factional standing is default at the moment, as it gets renewed. Therefor it isn't a parameter yet for a good or a bad hub. In the moment Faction standing gives marginal difference, so you actually have a tax rate of 3,43 % at Centrum and 4% in Zhuhai. In future Faction standing will get updated and hubs will get influencable by playerinteraction. At least this is, what was a goal once.
However, a parameter, that should not be overlooked is the position on the map. And that is, where Zhuhai scores against Qi Quien.

So let's try to get trade running at Zhuhai hub and to make it a blooming eastern Elgea market.
We started this market shaping project 3 days ago, and already have a wide spread variety of goods and a growing daily turnover.
Projects like this only work, if people are willing to take chances to make a few lesser margin as at Centrum yet, but with a rising presence of traders, orders and arising competition market occurence  outer Centrum trading will get more attractive.
Some allies are willing to discuss (or already doing) the support of this hub, so give allycrossing cooperation and active market shaping at Zhuhai a try ...

          Zhuhai ( 846 /229 )               ... a pilot project for strong regional markets

Posted By: Rill
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2012 at 19:11
I still like Qi Quien better than Zhuhai, sorry.

Posted By: dmar
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2012 at 11:11
Urukonium in Kal Tirikan is another active hub.

I have traders at Nessim and Hohnsval, too.  They're only mildly active.

Port Tal has been mentioned, I can corroborate it has decent activity.

Posted By: dunnoob
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2012 at 13:42
My roaming trader from Cake Harbour is fun, I got two barrels of wine in Kajadum, spent millions in Lantellyn, and picked up a few black panther furs in Jarru.   Admittedly many hubs were still disappointing. 

Posted By: EvilKatia
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2012 at 18:27
Currently Shelton 428 -214 (in Lucerna on the border of Perigor) is starting to pick up a bit of trade. Not a big center but practical to those nearby. Come and visit :)

edited to correct a mistake in the state where its situated.


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