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Category: The World
Forum Name: Tournament I - Hold the Flags!
Forum Description: 1st Tournament - Details, progress, reports & awards
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Topic: New Tournament
Posted By: Llyorn Of Jaensch
Subject: New Tournament
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2011 at 23:14
Lawn itchy feet get.

When's Tournament #2 kicking off GM's?



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Posted By: xBloodxPoolx
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2011 at 00:10
ya I would like to get in on this next tournament.


Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2011 at 01:01
I think several alliances might still be rebuilding losses from the first tournament.


Posted By: Brids17
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2011 at 01:42
I'd hope not for another couple months. 


Posted By: Llyorn Of Jaensch
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2011 at 02:02
Originally posted by The_Dude The_Dude wrote:

I think several alliances might still be rebuilding losses from the first tournament.


All the more interesting.


Posted By: waylander69
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2011 at 09:07
I think they would have to run one around every 3 months to be fair to all the alliances, that would give them all time to rebuild their troops and with enough notice they can set all their plans in motion.


Posted By: King EAM
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2011 at 12:12
I suspect in the next tourney there will be MUCH less small alliances participating since their hopes were crushed last time.

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Posted By: LadyLuvs
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2011 at 15:53
I hope not EAM.  I hope they are doing what everyone else is doing and preparing so they do stand a fighting chance the next time.  I hope many will rise to the occasion and surprise everyone.Thumbs Up


Posted By: Gratch
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2011 at 15:59
Some smaller alliances might surprise you. Especially if they didn't participate in the last one and spent the time building up instead. While I could see some who had hopes crused not participating, I think it would just encourage others to try do better next time


Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2011 at 17:19
Maybe the next tournament will have "weight classes" so smaller alliances compete against other smaller alliances and the big alliances compete just against the other big alliances.


Posted By: Gratch
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2011 at 17:23
I suppose having the "weight classes" would give the smaller alliances more of a chance :) It would in a way be good...


Posted By: waylander69
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2011 at 18:44
Not sure how 'weight classes' would work, 
after all an alliance with say under 50 members against an alliance with 100 members who would have the advantage, also do you go on population ? that does not represent military strength. I know some alliances were caught out by the start of this tourney but im sure next time around more plans will have to be made by everyone taking part. 


Posted By: G0DsDestroyer
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2011 at 19:14
You also have to consider the factor of how many people in the alliance are actually going to be participating in the tournament.

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Posted By: Brids17
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2011 at 23:19
Originally posted by Gratch Gratch wrote:

Some smaller alliances might surprise you.


Agreed. mCrow had less than 30 members and we held some of the flags for quite some time and that was with one of our more military strong members not participating. Not to mention that even though we didn't win we had a lot of fun and gained tons of commander exp.


Posted By: Llyorn Of Jaensch
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2011 at 03:26
The simplest and most rational solution which has already been suggested is to allow alliances to Confederate and act as a single body for the duration of the tournament (with the current rules of 100 players max).

This is the only 'true/fair' handicap. All others are meaningless. Size is no indication of strength remember, a small pop player can very logically have a greater military power than a larger. Weight classes are inappropriate.

Now back to the point of this thread: GM's: Thoughts on the next tournament date?


Posted By: Tordenkaffen
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2011 at 00:09
Why not just make an A and a B team based on the previous tournaments?
 
H? was by far the strongest, but among all the alliances only a handfull can hope to compete with them. As you correctly point out, size isnt a factor in this, however, you could reason that those that participated and ranked high in the former tournement have the military capability while others do not.
 
I admit, being a small alliance competing in a league of its own would be like competing in the special olympics but its better than spending time fighting impossible odds. 
 
Bottom line - it will get more people active and participating, not shower the strongest alliances with special units, gold and prestige (which when you think about it can be counterproductive to the whole tournament idea), and that is the point of a tournament in my opinion.


Posted By: bow locks
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2011 at 07:54
last tourney we simply saw some poor tactics by some alliances: lack of flexibility, target fixation, inability to coordinate.
h? were lucky because on some flags the perception of their strength scared proper conflict away.  There were more than enough troops hopelessly thrown away by some alliances, to defeat h? at their stronghold flags.
Bow


Posted By: Gratch
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2011 at 08:07
Originally posted by Llyorn Of Jaensch Llyorn Of Jaensch wrote:

The simplest and most rational solution which has already been suggested is to allow alliances to Confederate and act as a single body for the duration of the tournament (with the current rules of 100 players max).


This does sound like a good idea, as it also does give smaller alliances more of a chance if they band together


Posted By: GM Stormcrow
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2011 at 11:19
Originally posted by Llyorn Of Jaensch Llyorn Of Jaensch wrote:


Now back to the point of this thread: GM's: Thoughts on the next tournament date?


Details of the next tournament are pretty much worked out, and it's going to be very different to the one we just had.

However, we are super-busy with UIv2 fixes atm, so don't expect anything in the immediate future!

SC


Posted By: Lord Loss
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2011 at 00:44
I think a quick new tournament while the larger alliances are rebuilding would be a great idea....
 This makes it a level playing field for all


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Posted By: HonoredMule
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2011 at 05:17
I'm already mostly rebuilt, and I spent big time.  I don't think a rush would make much difference.


Posted By: Llyorn Of Jaensch
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2011 at 11:39
Originally posted by HonoredMule HonoredMule wrote:

I'm already mostly rebuilt, and I spent big time.  I don't think a rush would make much difference.


Yeah well you're already rebuilt 'cause you be stealin' all the passwords and software ya swindling pilfering purloiner you!


Posted By: Kumomoto
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2011 at 15:47
Originally posted by Llyorn Of Jaensch Llyorn Of Jaensch wrote:

Originally posted by HonoredMule HonoredMule wrote:

I'm already mostly rebuilt, and I spent big time.  I don't think a rush would make much difference.


Yeah well you're already rebuilt 'cause you be stealin' all the passwords and software ya swindling pilfering purloiner you!
 
Lyly-- how many times do I have to remind you that mules kick...?


Posted By: G0DsDestroyer
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2011 at 19:26
Originally posted by Kumomoto Kumomoto wrote:

Originally posted by Llyorn Of Jaensch Llyorn Of Jaensch wrote:

Originally posted by HonoredMule HonoredMule wrote:

I'm already mostly rebuilt, and I spent big time.  I don't think a rush would make much difference.


Yeah well you're already rebuilt 'cause you be stealin' all the passwords and software ya swindling pilfering purloiner you!
 
Lyly-- how many times do I have to remind you that mules kick...?


Even the Honored ones?Confused


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Posted By: Brids17
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2011 at 20:25
Originally posted by Kumomoto Kumomoto wrote:

Lyly-- how many times do I have to remind you that mules kick...?


I assumed he was joking...


Posted By: Kumomoto
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2011 at 20:49
Originally posted by Brids17 Brids17 wrote:

Originally posted by Kumomoto Kumomoto wrote:

Lyly-- how many times do I have to remind you that mules kick...?


I assumed he was joking...
 
Yes. I was joking...Tongue


Posted By: Llyorn Of Jaensch
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2011 at 20:51
Originally posted by Brids17 Brids17 wrote:

Originally posted by Kumomoto Kumomoto wrote:

Lyly-- how many times do I have to remind you that mules kick...?


I assumed he was joking...


Not at all. Mules can kick viciously. Its a documented fact. Feel free to Google.



Hur



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