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King's First Tournament - The Results

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Topic: King's First Tournament - The Results
Posted By: GM Stormcrow
Subject: King's First Tournament - The Results
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2011 at 00:54
King Sigurd is pleased to announce the results of the first ever Alliance Tournament.

He is exceptionally delighted at the number of participants and commitment shown, by death, during the proceedings.

OVERALL STANDINGS
  1. 95d 16hr 28m 49s - Harmless?    
  2. 43d 20hr 04m 35s - Tranquil Vision    
  3. 35d 11hr 46m 41s - Curse of the Wolves


  4. 26d 02hr 59m 39s - Goonies    
  5. 21d 16hr 50m 39s - Invictus    
  6. 06d 08hr 13m 02s - Dwarven Lords    
  7. 04d 22hr 23m 03s - Murder of Crows    
  8. 03d 11hr 34m 01s - Good Company
  9. 01d 22hr 37m 41s - Toothless?    
  10. 01d 20hr 51m 00s - Prisoners Of Society    
  11. 01d 09hr 49m 00s - Æsir    
  12. 00d 16hr 50m 01s - Unified Orc Scourge    
  13. 00d 11hr 38m 02s - Crows Beak    
  14. 00d 05hr 01m 01s - The Commonwealth    
  15. 00d 04hr 47m 02s - Order of the Phoenix    
  16. 00d 02hr 49m 01s - Hey That's My Bike    
  17. 00d 01hr 08m 00s - Res Ipsa Loquitor    
  18. 00d 01hr 00h 00s - Free Defense Union    

OVERALL WINNER PRIZES

#1 Harmless [H?]
  • 20M Gold Pieces from King Sigurd, delivered to the Alliance Coffers
  • Each winning Alliance Member who participated in the occupation will receive 50 King's Elite Praetorians (unique units)
  • Each winning Alliance Member who participated in the occupation will receive 200 Prestige points to spend as they wish
  • The Overall Winning Alliance will also be able to nominate a square on the World Map upon which to place the alliance trophy - a named obelisk in their honour, visible to all
#2 Tranquil Vision [PEACE]:
  • 10M Gold Pieces from King Sigurd, delivered to the Alliance Coffers
  • Each winning Alliance Member who participated in the occupation will receive a further 35 King's Elite Praetorians (unique units)
  • Each winning Alliance Member who participated in the occupation will receive 160 Prestige points to spend as they wish
#3 Curse of the Wolves [CURSE]:
  • 6M Gold Pieces from King Sigurd, delivered to the Alliance Coffers
  • Each winning Alliance Member who participated in the occupation will receive a further 20 King's Elite Praetorians (unique units)
  • Each winning Alliance Member who participated in the occupation will receive 120 Prestige points to spend as they wish

SQUARE WINNERS

  • #1 http://forum.illyriad.co.uk/northwest-500500_topic1510.html - Northwest -500|500 : Curse of the Wolves [CURSE]
  • #1 http://forum.illyriad.co.uk/north-0500_topic1511.html - North 0|500 : Tranquil Vision [PEACE]
  • #1 http://forum.illyriad.co.uk/northeast-500500_topic1512.html - Northeast 500|500 : Harmless? [H?]
  • #1 http://forum.illyriad.co.uk/east-5000_topic1513.html - East 500|0 : Goonies [GOON]
  • #1 http://forum.illyriad.co.uk/southeast-500500_topic1514.html - Southeast 500|-500 : Invictus [VIC]
  • #1 http://forum.illyriad.co.uk/south-0-500_topic1515.html - South 0|-500 : Harmless? [H?]
  • #1 http://forum.illyriad.co.uk/southwest-500500_topic1516.html - Southwest -500|-500 : Harmless? [H?]
  • #1 http://forum.illyriad.co.uk/west-5000_topic1517.html - West -500|0 : Tranquil Vision [PEACE]
Please click on the locations above to receive a stats breakdown for each square.

SQUARE WINNER PRIZES

Each Square Winner will receive:
  • 5M Gold Pieces from King Sigurd, delivered to the Alliance Coffers
  • Each winning Alliance Member who participated in the occupation will receive 50 King's Praetorian Guardsmen (unique units)
  • Each winning Alliance Member who participated in the occupation will receive 100 Prestige points to spend as they wish
DISTRIBUTION OF PRIZES

Prizes will be distributed to each player and alliance over the next couple of days.

Unit rewards will be granted to the Capital Cities only.

Winning Alliance members who will receive the rewards are listed under each reward square's post (click on the square name listed above under the "Square Winners" heading)!

One slight snag is that - until the release of UIv2 - players cannot assign these unique units into armies; they can only be left in the Unit Pool at the moment.

However, this is probably a good thing, because King Sigurd's Praetorians are terrible attackers.  But they defend well. Oh yes.

STATISTICS

Some overall stats below, and individual square-by-square stats can be found from the square links (above) or elsewhere in this thread.

Many congratulations to the winners, and thanks to everyone who participated, and there'll be more tournaments coming soon!

Best wishes,

SC




Replies:
Posted By: GM Stormcrow
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2011 at 01:07
STATISTICS

Top 10 Alliance Casualties whilst Attacking

  1. Harmless?    [H?]    (Casualties received: 234085)
  2. Invictus    [VIC]    (Casualties received: 203098)
  3. Dwarven Lords    [Dlord]    (Casualties received: 173741)
  4. Goonies    [GOON]    (Casualties received: 168048)
  5. Curse of the Wolves    [Curse]    (Casualties received: 154156)
  6. Tranquil Vision    [Peace]    (Casualties received: 148364)
  7. Murder of Crows    [mCrow]    (Casualties received: 88606)
  8. Prisoners Of Society    [0-0]    (Casualties received: 62734)
  9. Toothless?    [T?]    (Casualties received: 39445)
  10. Love World Order    [L W O]    (Casualties received: 19565)

Top 10 Alliance Casualties whilst Defending

  1. Tranquil Vision    [Peace]    (Casualties received: 477078)
  2. Curse of the Wolves    [Curse]    (Casualties received: 260580)
  3. Goonies    [GOON]    (Casualties received: 217566)
  4. Harmless?    [H?]    (Casualties received: 193762)
  5. Invictus    [VIC]    (Casualties received: 126935)
  6. Murder of Crows    [mCrow]    (Casualties received: 96710)
  7. Dwarven Lords    [Dlord]    (Casualties received: 69530)
  8. Good Company    [Good]    (Casualties received: 60323)
  9. Prisoners Of Society    [0-0]    (Casualties received: 34986)
  10. Toothless?    [T?]    (Casualties received: 30145)

Top 30 Players Suffering Losses During Attack

  1. HonoredMule    [H?]    (Casualties received: 64537)
  2. Sloter5    [VIC]    (Casualties received: 39649)
  3. flipper    [Dlord]    (Casualties received: 36203)
  4. Warrior Bunny    [VIC]    (Casualties received: 35759)
  5. Empress Olivia    [H?]    (Casualties received: 25862)
  6. ScottFitz    [mCrow]    (Casualties received: 24082)
  7. kaboom    [VIC]    (Casualties received: 22633)
  8. Raritor    [mCrow]    (Casualties received: 21233)
  9. Llyorn Of Jaensch    [H?]    (Casualties received: 20760)
  10. jaxx    [Curse]    (Casualties received: 20444)
  11. Sherpa    [GOON]    (Casualties received: 20130)
  12. Faldrin    [Dlord]    (Casualties received: 19729)
  13. Waylander    [H?]    (Casualties received: 18758)
  14. BabyDragon    [GOON]    (Casualties received: 17831)
  15. Beau    [GOON]    (Casualties received: 17065)
  16. jezma    [Peace]    (Casualties received: 16648)
  17. MalMal    [H?]    (Casualties received: 15534)
  18. Ironfist    [VIC]    (Casualties received: 13651)
  19. col0005    [0-0]    (Casualties received: 13524)
  20. Bruce    [VIC]    (Casualties received: 13221)
  21. Korg!    [Curse]    (Casualties received: 13083)
  22. Faya    [GOON]    (Casualties received: 13013)
  23. Gandalf the White    [GOON]    (Casualties received: 12979)
  24. Dogbert    [0-0]    (Casualties received: 12903)
  25. Lucens    [H?]    (Casualties received: 12903)
  26. Beagletown    [H?]    (Casualties received: 12624)
  27. w1r3d    [Curse]    (Casualties received: 12604)
  28. lord azrael    [Peace]    (Casualties received: 12106)
  29. Kumomoto    [H?]    (Casualties received: 12101)
  30. shakyala    [Peace]    (Casualties received: 12058)

Top 30 Players Suffering Losses During Defense

  1. Pasi    [Peace]    (Casualties received: 57342)
  2. shakyala    [Peace]    (Casualties received: 45330)
  3. Tanis    [Curse]    (Casualties received: 42264)
  4. TornSky    [Good]    (Casualties received: 37717)
  5. Faya    [GOON]    (Casualties received: 37206)
  6. Iduna    [Curse]    (Casualties received: 34630)
  7. Rymis    [Peace]    (Casualties received: 32881)
  8. MoreBlue4U2    [Peace]    (Casualties received: 32615)
  9. Bren'th    [Curse]    (Casualties received: 32215)
  10. Llyorn Of Jaensch    [H?]    (Casualties received: 30518)
  11. ScottFitz    [mCrow]    (Casualties received: 29376)
  12. jezma    [Peace]    (Casualties received: 26847)
  13. h8tedoak    [mCrow]    (Casualties received: 24638)
  14. Beau    [GOON]    (Casualties received: 24549)
  15. Faldrin    [Dlord]    (Casualties received: 21143)
  16. HonoredMule    [H?]    (Casualties received: 19229)
  17. Porthos    [GOON]    (Casualties received: 19168)
  18. w1r3d    [Curse]    (Casualties received: 18927)
  19. cuzdeath    [Peace]    (Casualties received: 18580)
  20. STAR    [Peace]    (Casualties received: 17243)
  21. Sir-Les    [VIC]    (Casualties received: 16466)
  22. Createure    [H?]    (Casualties received: 15628)
  23. gixy    [GOON]    (Casualties received: 15612)
  24. rijk    [Peace]    (Casualties received: 15438)
  25. Kumomoto    [H?]    (Casualties received: 15129)
  26. jaxx    [Curse]    (Casualties received: 14875)
  27. Pluvius    [Curse]    (Casualties received: 14388)
  28. Rupe    [Peace]    (Casualties received: 14254)
  29. DarthVader98    [Peace]    (Casualties received: 13048)
  30. nipirt777    [Peace]    (Casualties received: 12803)

Units Killed During Attacks

  1. Knight    (Casualties received: 142138)
  2. Elven Trueshot    (Casualties received: 124646)
  3. Stalwart    (Casualties received: 113842)
  4. Crossbowman    (Casualties received: 97707)
  5. Longbowman    (Casualties received: 85798)
  6. Wardancer    (Casualties received: 78048)
  7. Marshal    (Casualties received: 72748)
  8. Halbardier    (Casualties received: 63827)
  9. Charioteer    (Casualties received: 61207)
  10. Man-at-Arms    (Casualties received: 59526)
  11. Pikeman    (Casualties received: 50572)
  12. Runerider    (Casualties received: 46852)
  13. Phalanx    (Casualties received: 43389)
  14. Sentinel    (Casualties received: 42195)
  15. Swiftsteed    (Casualties received: 41384)
  16. Kobold Cohort    (Casualties received: 33985)
  17. Axman    (Casualties received: 32578)
  18. Swordsman    (Casualties received: 30956)
  19. Death Pack    (Casualties received: 27862)
  20. Militiaman    (Casualties received: 26153)
  21. Wolfrider    (Casualties received: 21718)
  22. Archer    (Casualties received: 21679)
  23. Yeoman    (Casualties received: 18967)
  24. Clan Guardsman    (Casualties received: 18562)
  25. Death Dealer    (Casualties received: 13350)
  26. Packsman    (Casualties received: 13336)
  27. Protector    (Casualties received: 12292)
  28. Fist    (Casualties received: 11193)
  29. Slinger    (Casualties received: 9308)
  30. Fang    (Casualties received: 7044)
  31. Warden    (Casualties received: 5479)
  32. Clanguard    (Casualties received: 5298)
  33. Catapult    (Casualties received: 23)
  34. Mangonel    (Casualties received: 20)
  35. Siege Hook    (Casualties received: 15)
  36. Battering ram    (Casualties received: 15)
  37. Ballista    (Casualties received: 7)
  38. Battery-tower    (Casualties received: 5)

Units Killed During Defense

  1. Elven Trueshot    (Casualties received: 157519)
  2. Longbowman    (Casualties received: 131715)
  3. Pikeman    (Casualties received: 95879)
  4. Knight    (Casualties received: 83943)
  5. Crossbowman    (Casualties received: 74009)
  6. Archer    (Casualties received: 73827)
  7. Stalwart    (Casualties received: 72468)
  8. Sentinel    (Casualties received: 65326)
  9. Halbardier    (Casualties received: 65315)
  10. Charioteer    (Casualties received: 64652)
  11. Marshal    (Casualties received: 64376)
  12. Man-at-Arms    (Casualties received: 61881)
  13. Swiftsteed    (Casualties received: 60552)
  14. Phalanx    (Casualties received: 58306)
  15. Kobold Cohort    (Casualties received: 53358)
  16. Wardancer    (Casualties received: 46694)
  17. Swordsman    (Casualties received: 40037)
  18. Runerider    (Casualties received: 39444)
  19. Militiaman    (Casualties received: 38744)
  20. Clan Guardsman    (Casualties received: 37492)
  21. Axman    (Casualties received: 32597)
  22. Wolfrider    (Casualties received: 28502)
  23. Protector    (Casualties received: 25370)
  24. Death Pack    (Casualties received: 24807)
  25. Death Dealer    (Casualties received: 23112)
  26. Yeoman    (Casualties received: 17359)
  27. Slinger    (Casualties received: 13574)
  28. Packsman    (Casualties received: 12953)
  29. Fist    (Casualties received: 12808)
  30. Warden    (Casualties received: 5228)
  31. Clanguard    (Casualties received: 5127)
  32. Fang    (Casualties received: 5040)
  33. Battering ram    (Casualties received: 6)
  34. Catapult    (Casualties received: 5)
  35. Siege Hook    (Casualties received: 5)
  36. Mangonel    (Casualties received: 4)




Posted By: GM Stormcrow
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2011 at 01:18
We'd also like to thank, again, The_Dude for his excellent commentaries, which have been copied over to this new subforum for everyone to enjoy.

Thanks again, to all.

Regards,

SC


Posted By: HonoredMule
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2011 at 02:04
Woo, my SE suicide squads have achieved fame! Tongue


Posted By: Brids17
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2011 at 07:07
I'm not sure if I should be disappointed or happy that my name isn't anywhere in the above list...


Posted By: bow locks
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2011 at 08:05
I can confirm, these are the stats we are looking for.

Many many thanks to the GMs for this tournament. It was great fun and really good to have gone on so long and to have been so all encompassing.  Great stuff.

Special  mention to the-dude for all his efforts. People like him - player participants - really lift these events and make them something even the gm s couldnt hope for.

Bow


Posted By: Raritor
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2011 at 10:31
Originally posted by Brids17 Brids17 wrote:

I'm not sure if I should be disappointed or happy that my name isn't anywhere in the above list...


Well my name appears, but not in the winners list...Cry


Posted By: Createure
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2011 at 12:32
Nice stats... I had fun peering over them. Wink


Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2011 at 15:11
Originally posted by Createure Createure wrote:

Nice stats... I had fun peering over them. Wink
I first read this I thought Createure said "peeing over them."LOL


Posted By: Createure
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2011 at 18:25
Originally posted by The_Dude The_Dude wrote:

Originally posted by Createure Createure wrote:

Nice stats... I had fun peering over them. Wink
I first read this I thought Createure said "peeing over them."LOL

I admit, that too. ^^

At least I got #1 in some stat... not the sexiest one by far, but most casualties defending the S flag is something at least. Approve


Posted By: Createure
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2011 at 18:29
LWO did a super nice job getting into the top 10 attacking casualties for a relatively small alliance.


Posted By: Kumomoto
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2011 at 19:01
Amazing stats! Thanks, SC!
 
The only ones that  I would love to see (not sure if they're easy or not, if not then no biggie) would be how many casualties individuals and alliances CAUSED in their attack and in their defenses...
 
(strikes me as a better indication of their effectiveness than how many casualties they received, no?) (maybe possible to run script where it takes total casualties for each engagement - total casualties received and creates a table of casualties inflicted and totals them up for individuals?)
 
Just an idea...
 
But love, love, love the breakdown! Thanks!
 
Kumo
 
ps. so HM gets the Most Vicious Bastard Award and Pasi gets the Pinata Award? ;)


Posted By: Nokigon
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2011 at 19:11
Anyone know where HArmless is putting the obelisk?


Posted By: Brids17
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2011 at 19:39
I'm more interested to know what they'll title it...I'm personally hoping for something Bieber related but maybe that's just because I'd name it like that...


Posted By: King EAM
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2011 at 21:51
Great job to everyone Clap 
A special thanks to The_Dude for the great forum and being a great announcer and to the GMs for these stats and making the tourney. Clap


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"It's hard to know until you're a Crow"


Posted By: Kumomoto
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2011 at 17:03
Originally posted by Brids17 Brids17 wrote:

I'm more interested to know what they'll title it...I'm personally hoping for something Bieber related but maybe that's just because I'd name it like that...
 
We don't have the right to title it, it is already named, per the tournament rules.


Posted By: Attila the Hun
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2011 at 17:10
what is this oblesik you are talking about <---doesnt  know any tourny sh*t.


Posted By: Hora
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2011 at 18:00
hmm... I think there's pretty much you don't know LOL

But normal people would try to read all those complicated words writen in the release from about 30th of december Geek


Posted By: Attila the Hun
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2011 at 18:03
Originally posted by Hora Hora wrote:

hmm... I think there's pretty much you don't know LOL

But normal people would try to read all those complicated words writen in the release from about 30th of december Geek
i ****ing hate you sooo much

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It's just a game. :)


Posted By: Hora
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2011 at 18:11
hey,... I just tried to be nice! Cry

... perhaps didn't so well, but at least I tried...(I even managed not to write some of the thoughts I'm actually thinking Clap)


Posted By: Attila the Hun
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2011 at 18:25
ok... /me hugs hora

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It's just a game. :)


Posted By: Hora
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2011 at 19:07
/me hugs Attila backEmbarrassed

Confused ...I still can't believe I actually just did that LOL


Posted By: Attila the Hun
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2011 at 19:56
/me snuggles with hora

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It's just a game. :)


Posted By: Brids17
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2011 at 00:42
Originally posted by Kumomoto Kumomoto wrote:

We don't have the right to title it, it is already named, per the tournament rules.


I could have sworn I read that you got to give it a title...Must have read it wrong.


Posted By: Strategos
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2011 at 01:04
...This just sounds *so* very very wrong in Norwegian.

And if anyone goes and tries to translate why, I will have to get out the pink pen of modifying doom! 

That said..I guess....*snuggles everyone except hora for nationalist reasons*


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Postatem obscuri lateris nescitis


Posted By: Hora
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2011 at 03:14
hmm...Strategos is playing oracle again...Confused

I tried some norwegian translators, but still can't get sense out of it...

...so please, please, just tell me what you meant before coming along with that "brightens pen at doom"
(translated to norwegian and back again LOL)


kindly, but still a bit confused,
                                                 Hora



Posted By: Kumomoto
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2011 at 10:07

GM StormCrow--

H? has deliberated and voted and our choice for location to put the Victory Obelisk is (-282, -511).
Please let us know if there is any wording flexibility...
 
Thanks!
 
H?


Posted By: Mr Andersson
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2011 at 14:13
Maybe I'm giving out to much information here but... here it goes

Hora, the Norwegian spelling differs slightly from the Swedish, but the pronunciation is quite similar. If I "interpret" Strategos correct (in why it sounds sooo wrong) you could try your name from Swedish to English instead and that might end all confusion ... 

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MrA


Posted By: Hora
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2011 at 14:22
eh...oh, damn...but that must be really colloquial than, as only the 4th translator I tried had it in his dictionaryConfused, (but I won't tell, which one)

and thanks Mr Andersson for telling me

if you try wikipedia, you'll only find translations for mediteranian (where it means hour), or czech (where it means mountain)

hmm... I'm actually a bit shocked now
so everyone who actually found out, that was the one meaning definitly not meant with my name!

btw: For everyone who not found out yet, it's actually not that bad a word, at least noone is attacked by it directly (I interpreted Stratgos's comment "nationalist reasons" wrong there). So hopefully no harm done Wink

kindly
Hora (the better translations meant hereSmile)


Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2011 at 16:39
Well now I am very curious!  Any chance you could mail me your research results, Hora?  Thanks.


Posted By: King EAM
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2011 at 16:42
Originally posted by The_Dude The_Dude wrote:

Well now I am very curious!  Any chance you could mail me your research results, Hora?  Thanks.


TD has the most posts now! Clap (Sorry HM)


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"It's hard to know until you're a Crow"


Posted By: HonoredMule
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2011 at 17:25
aw...

Google Translate guesses by default that hora is Spanish and means 'time'.


Posted By: Strategos
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2011 at 17:31
Let us just say that 'Hora' is a common dialect word for a specific person belonging to the second oldest profession in the world.

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Postatem obscuri lateris nescitis


Posted By: Mr Andersson
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2011 at 19:59
Originally posted by Hora Hora wrote:

...  that was the one meaning definitly not meant with my name!

Yes I figured, I hope u didn't mind me telling.


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MrA


Posted By: Hora
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2011 at 20:46
Originally posted by The_Dude The_Dude wrote:

Well now I am very curious!  Any chance you could mail me your research results, Hora?  Thanks.


hmm...grr...
before I have to mail everybody on it, I'll just tell evryone  Wacko

Thanks to Strategos and MrAndersson I learned Scandinavian now LOL
"Hora" seems to mean a 'more kind' form of discribing a whore in swedish, which changes to "hore" in norwegian, and that's where Strategos fell over it.
Originally I had it from a book, where it was because of the latin meaning of "hour", and later I discovered the czech meaning of "mountain"

Hope evryone now knows it, and thus that matter is solved Clap

... /me thinks it would be an idea to move (or even remove?) this last part, as it really has no relation to the tournament, has it? Wink

mfg Hora


Posted By: Hora
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2011 at 20:51
hey cool, in Suaheli "hora"  means "to hear" Geek

in serbia it means "choir"

what a strange wor(l)d LOL


Posted By: GM Stormcrow
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2011 at 02:16
Originally posted by Hora Hora wrote:

hey cool, in Suaheli "hora"  means "to hear" Geek

in serbia it means "choir"

what a strange wor(l)d LOL


Without wanting to go into one of my long preset speeches on Etymology which can and will send everyone to sleep... 

The two main usages mentioned so far are actually the same.

Pretty much all western languages are descended from Sanskrit, on either side of the Centum-Satum Isogloss.

Hora is, as far back as etymologists can trace, a Sanskrit word taken from the root ahoratram meaning "day and night".  Hora, in the Sanskrit, pretty much means "time", but was mostly used in the context of night-time; and in modern usage tends to refer to "Astrology".

And so, yes there is an obvious linguistic connection between Hora and Hour simply because hours are the elements that make up day and night (ie time).

Equally pertinently, the "other" modern root to which everyone is obliquely referring is similar rooted.

Hora in the Latin (actually borrowed by Latin from the Greek and so on back to the Sanskrit) being feminine (ending in -a) therefore has connections to "Woman of the Night".  I think you see where this is headed, and how we ended up with the word everyone's avoiding. 

Same root.

As it were.

/me goes to bed

[EDIT Addendum for completeness sake:  There's an alternate theory that the "we shall not speak of" usage of the word that we spell with a "w" in English actually comes from the PIE root qar (which gave us the Latin for "carus" (dear) etc) via Proto-Germanic; but I've generally been unconvinced by that explanation; given that phrases such as "Woman of the Night" and/or "by the hour" persist to this day.  The truth might lie somewhere inbetween in the linguistic equivalent of a mashup.]



Posted By: Llyorn Of Jaensch
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2011 at 02:33
Originally posted by GM Stormcrow GM Stormcrow wrote:

Originally posted by Hora Hora wrote:

hey cool, in Suaheli "hora"  means "to hear" Geek
in serbia it means "choir"
what a strange wor(l)d LOL

Without wanting to go into one of my long preset speeches on Etymology which can and will send everyone to sleep... 
The two main usages mentioned so far are actually the same.
Pretty much all western languages are descended from Sanskrit, on either side of the Centum-Satum Isogloss.
Hora is, as far back as etymologists can trace, a Sanskrit word taken from the root ahoratram meaning "day and night".  Hora, in the Sanskrit, pretty much means "time", but was mostly used in the context of night-time; and in modern usage tends to refer to "Astrology".
And so, yes there is an obvious linguistic connection between Hora and Hour simply because hours are the elements that make up day and night (ie time).
Equally pertinently, the "other" modern root to which everyone is obliquely referring is similar rooted.
Hora in the Latin (actually borrowed by Latin from the Greek and so on back to the Sanskrit) being feminine (ending in -a) therefore has connections to "Woman of the Night".  I think you see where this is headed, and how we ended up with the word everyone's avoiding. 
Same root.
As it were.
/me goes to bed
[EDIT Addendum for completeness sake:  There's an alternate theory that the "we shall not speak of" usage of the word that we spell with a "w" in English actually comes from the PIE root qar (which gave us the Latin for "carus" (dear) etc) via Proto-Germanic; but I've generally been unconvinced by that explanation; given that phrases such as "Woman of the Night" and/or "by the hour" persist to this day.  The truth might lie somewhere inbetween in the linguistic equivalent of a mashup.]

Sleepy


Posted By: Strategos
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2011 at 02:35
As a slight (though not quite as impressive) addendum to Stormcrow, I can say that "to hear" is "høre" in Norwegian.

And for those unfamiliar with the rather unique scandinavian letters, ø and o are as different as p and q (or a and å ;) )


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Posted By: GM Stormcrow
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2011 at 02:37
Originally posted by Llyorn Of Jaensch Llyorn Of Jaensch wrote:


Sleepy


Doh!

Ah well, I should probably move these posts out of this thread - luckily there's a "naming" thread in the Caravanserai that's pretty sleepy as well Wink

SC


Posted By: Strategos
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2011 at 02:37
Also a memo to the GM's, expand the forum to include the scandinavian alphabet ;)

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Posted By: GM Stormcrow
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2011 at 02:41
Originally posted by Strategos Strategos wrote:

As a slight (though not quite as impressive) addendum to Stormcrow, I can say that "to hear" is "høre" in Norwegian.

And for those unfamiliar with the rather unique scandinavian letters, ø and o are as different as p and q (or a and å ;) )


Interesting.  There's no really concrete tie of "hear" (or "here", as these words only separated post 1180AD) to PIE/Sanskrit; maybe it's a Proto-Germanic thing.

[EDIT:

Actually, not interesting to most everyone.

/me really must get back to bed

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Posted By: Strategos
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2011 at 02:55
I was actually quite riveted...are you telling me some people don't consider this action packed and thrilling?

Illyriad, say it aint so!


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Posted By: Llyorn Of Jaensch
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2011 at 02:58
It be so! *whispers*


Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2011 at 03:47

I'm digging the etymology.Geek



Posted By: some random guy
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2011 at 04:48
If this gets any longer I'll be digging my grave...Dead

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Posted By: Hora
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2011 at 12:19
Originally posted by GM Stormcrow GM Stormcrow wrote:

Originally posted by Strategos Strategos wrote:

As a slight (though not quite as impressive) addendum to Stormcrow, I can say that "to hear" is "høre" in Norwegian.

And for those unfamiliar with the rather unique scandinavian letters, ø and o are as different as p and q (or a and å ;) )


Interesting.  There's no really concrete tie of "hear" (or "here", as these words only separated post 1180AD) to PIE/Sanskrit; maybe it's a Proto-Germanic thing.



comes from gotic "hausjan" and goes to nordic "heyra" (from wiki)
in german it's "hören", and in upper palatinate bavarian still "heyern"

Hmm... didn't know up to now, that Suaheli is Proto-germanic Wink, and I really find that topic interesting Geek


Posted By: Hora
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2011 at 12:25
and it seem, there aren't even letters in here for german "ae""oe"and "ue"
ä   ö   ü


Posted By: Nokigon
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2011 at 13:33

I'm joining Somerandomguy. My tombstone inscription:

 
 
Here lies Nokigon, a poor person who died of boredom.
Darn you Linguists.
 
RIP


Posted By: Hora
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2011 at 17:59
...oh...so sorry Cry

I'll try to stop before more people die Confused

...I think that part is to be deleted, as not that many people would agree with letting it in here...
...Just to ensure no more people are harmed...



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