Peaceful Illy Group (PIG)

Jejune wrote: Illyriad is a strange game in that war actually makes people leave the game, rather than engaging with it more.

what i have observed is that it is the peace after the war that causes players to leave, because they have lost so much they do not have the interest to rebuild, because they are exhausted from the sustained effort an illy war demands, or because they cannot live with the new balance of power. most players who leave during war leave for rl reasons, and that is mostly a reflection of how very long an illy war takes to play out.

edited to clean up quote tags.


Edited by Angrim - 10 Sep 2014 at 01:06

For example, one other game I started playing after this war, has such a quick battle system that wars can be declared and finished withing a few hours or a few days. I mean, I was part of a battle/war where in a few hours, almost 6 million troops were lost. Then peace reigned again. My side won for those of you wondering.

Maybe someone should start an alliance dedicated to constant war tournaments? I have often argued that Illy wars start out of boredom, fueled by all the big armies with nothing else to do. The dev-run tournaments are a little dry; King-of-the-hill isn't very sophisticated relative to the complexity of their battle system.

All--

While we received an overwhelming response from the alliances in Illy in joining PIG and expressing an interest in the initiative, it seems that Illy, as a community, does not have an appetite for formalizing the means to protect accounts in times of war... We have had a number of extremely helpful folks and incredibly good efforts from a few, and for that, Thank you, thank you, thank you! Your efforts weren't in vain, I hope! Hopefully we have raised the awareness to this issue...

But the majority of the alliances seemed to view this as an exercise in trying to find faults in the effort instead of contributing to it. I also suspect that my involvement couldn't be gotten over by some of the alliances involved. So, I'm leaving PIG. I'll still follow their forums and leave the effort in my fellow founder, Hath's, capable hands.

We set out to do, what, in my opinion, is the most noble effort ever tried in Illy (after Starry founded the first Training alliance) and we tried hard. But the bottom line is that a server wide convention needs enthusiasm from all the alliances and we received mostly objections.

To those whose supported this effort, THANK YOU!!!

To those who made huge efforts to thwart it, I can only hope that you are never on the receiving end of a war where you would have been able to take "Parole" and leave.  And if you are, you will probably second guess your resistance to this effort. But as of today, no alliances have formally stated and agreed upon terms where they will not exterminate accounts and so we are still at status quo ante bellum.

On a side note, I really appreciate all the kind words of support from all of you and active support some of you gave. Truly appreciated. This type of effort was a long shot even in the wake of such an obviously destructive war. But, unfortunately, too many of the victims are gone to obviously influence a server consensus. Maybe after we go through another round, or two, or more, we will wake up. Or maybe not. I guess it's just human nature to tear down and not build.

Kumo

Brandmeister wrote: Maybe someone should start an alliance dedicated to constant war tournaments? I have often argued that Illy wars start out of boredom, fueled by all the big armies with nothing else to do. The dev-run tournaments are a little dry; King-of-the-hill isn't very sophisticated relative to the complexity of their battle system.