The 10-Square Myth

Deranzin (and others),

Quite the opposite - accepting local skirmishes/battles/incidents (pick your term short of War) -- this is what the game needs to avoid wars.  We seem to have lost the ability in this game to compete at a local level without tieing our hands to policies that in themselves lead to a war.

Deranzin - if I right now ventured out and killed your harvesters, would H? declare war on us, or would you settle it locally first and foremost?  You have to think about that question, because it is at the core of how alliances approach the game.  I think two players can battle and compete without dragging their entire alliance into a war.

I have mostly new players in Tsunami [WAVE] - well over 40 members now, and we will be a 90+ member alliance one day.  We have a mix of a few returning players and some alt characters, but the majority are new to the game but not new to MMORPGs (many from LoU) --- i.e. they are gamers and not ignorant as to gameplay.

They are just as vocal to me that your long-standing Dogma is idiotic!!!  You have to control resources through force, not words, but you are also missing the point because you're sucked into the Dogma.

We need a fresh new approach to the game, which remains capable of local competition and actively playing the game, rather than the stodgy approaches that hoped for control through a war that references the violation of a published alliance policy.

Again, none of your arguments have changed the fact that there is no "10-Square Rule" and that what we have is a 10-Square Myth.

Myll 

KillerPoodle,

There's many motives for this post - that's why people post here in the first place, to make a point.  It's not about preserving WAVE, it's about yours and others' long-term bias/Dogma over the way the game sees land control and a false sense of ownership.  Your alliance, most of all, held this ideal up for so long and it became a game norm.  It's time to "Break the Phalanx" KP, and begin to disavow that stance.  You should see, most of all, that land can only be controlled by force and not by words or policy.  Even Clausewitz made this clear in real life: "War is Policy by other Means."  Yourself and other large alliances have tried and tried to uphold your Policies over the last few years - you enforced yours with many great war victories, and now your opponents have upheld theirs (except for the regional hegemony you now enjoy within Azura).

You, as one of the primary spokesmen for the ongoing Dogma of this issue, are certain to be opposed to it, but at least give some thought to the need to change the approach across the map, across the game.  This issue isn't going away, and with each additional new player to the game the bias either gets reinforced in Dogma-teaching Training Alliances, or in alliances such as mine.  I believe there will be more alliances like mine going forward, but regardless what side of the fence you sit on, friction will exist.

For yourself and other game veterans, it would be refreshing to see a new approach to this issue, to clearly divide your policies for Settlement Restriction vs Resource Harvesting and not try and lump them together into your so-called "10-Square Rule."  My alliance will totally respect armies on the ground guarding harvesters, and we will certainly respect an army who comes to the site and kills off unprotected harvesters, but we don't respect policies that only show bluster without action on the site.  What your policies result in, KP, is for these type issues to lead to war, rather than mere battles.  We/Tsunami [WAVE] do not seek war, especially now, but we don't mind battles.  This game has lacked battles far too often and far too long, and unfortunately your alliance and others went straight to the "Declare War" option far too often, and it shows in your approach even within this thread.

Go ahead and kill off our unprotected harvesters if you feel they are within your perceived radius of Divine Mineral Rights, but don't expect finesse and groveling messages all the time, from all alliances.

Myll