Broken Lands and War

Epidemic wrote: I think the Illy community has grouped together to purge the warmongers from the game. This is by far the absolute worst warmongering game on the internet. I don't have a clue why someone would consider all-out war even an option here. But look on the bright side, i'm sure the warmongers will have dominion in BL.

I didn't want to clutter the Server War threads with a Broken Lands discussion, but I found this quote very interesting. Epidemic, why do you believe this to be true? It is my understanding that most of the alliances currently at war rely on several factors to fight:

1. Large Farm Accounts.
   
   Most big alliances have collected accounts from players who have departed the game. It is widely acknowledged that many big long-term players have two primary accounts and 2-4 farm accounts. These accounts lead to...



2. Huge stockpiles.
   
   Basically the farm accounts are set to generate enormous piles of gold and an endless stream of weapons and armor. So much, in fact, that alliances are in no danger of depleting them after multi-month wars running at full production sov.


3. Perma-sat war accounts.
   
   Not only do the primary accounts have an effectively endless supply of gold, but there are many perma-sat accounts that can be quickly brought into a state of battle readiness for tournaments and wars. This allows alliances to field millions of troops in an unending stream of firepower.

All of these factors rely on playing Illyriad for a long, long time. It requires recruiting many players over months or years, and then collecting their abandoned accounts as permanent alliance resource producers. NONE of these factors will be available in Broken Lands. It's a clean slate. I find it very difficult to believe that most big alliance players are going to build up 6 accounts for their personal use. It's just an enormous amount of effort. This is why old players tend not to migrate to new servers in cyclical MMOs. They have spent too much time building a comfortable and mighty empire, and have no inclination to repeat the entire process to the same endgame.

Even given extensive combat experience, I think we will not see the same political landscape as present-day Elgea. The Elgean big guns rely on having a core of expert, dedicated warriors running multiple accounts with effectively limitless resources. It will be years before that kind of firepower is assembled by anyone in Broken Lands.

Brandmeister wrote: Epidemic wrote: I think the Illy community has grouped together to purge the warmongers from the game. This is by far the absolute worst warmongering game on the internet. I don't have a clue why someone would consider all-out war even an option here. But look on the bright side, i'm sure the warmongers will have dominion in BL. I didn't want to clutter the Server War threads with a Broken Lands discussion, but I found this quote very interesting. Epidemic, why do you believe this to be true? It is my understanding that most of the alliances currently at war rely on several factors to fight: Large Farm Accounts. Most big alliances have collected accounts from players who have departed the game. It is widely acknowledged that many big long-term players have two primary accounts and 2-4 farm accounts. These accounts lead to... Huge stockpiles. Basically the farm accounts are set to generate enormous piles of gold and an endless stream of weapons and armor. So much, in fact, that alliances are in no danger of depleting them after multi-month wars running at full production sov. Perma-sat war accounts. Not only do the primary accounts have an effectively endless supply of gold, but there are many perma-sat accounts that can be quickly brought into a state of battle readiness for tournaments and wars. This allows alliances to field millions of troops in an unending stream of firepower. All of these factors rely on playing Illyriad for a long, long time. It requires recruiting many players over months or years, and then collecting their abandoned accounts as permanent alliance resource producers. NONE of these factors will be available in Broken Lands. It's a clean slate. I find it very difficult to believe that most big alliance players are going to build up 6 accounts for their personal use. It's just an enormous amount of effort. This is why old players tend not to migrate to new servers in cyclical MMOs. They have spent too much time building a comfortable and mighty empire, and have no inclination to repeat the entire process to the same endgame. Even given extensive combat experience, I think we will not see the same political landscape as present-day Elgea. The Elgean big guns rely on having a core of expert, dedicated warriors running multiple accounts with effectively limitless resources. It will be years before that kind of firepower is assembled by anyone in Broken Lands.

@EF: For a long time, I assumed the Elgean gridlock would exist in Broken Lands. The current big alliances would be able to say, "Mess with us in BL, and we will blow you off the face of Elgea." But I don't think that gridlock exists anymore. War will exist in the Broken Lands, and perhaps be more commonplace (albeit smaller scale), but I think the real fighters there will be different players than in Elgea.

Brandmeister wrote: @EF: For a long time, I assumed the Elgean gridlock would exist in Broken Lands. The current big alliances would be able to say, "Mess with us in BL, and we will blow you off the face of Elgea." But I don't think that gridlock exists anymore. War will exist in the Broken Lands, and perhaps be more commonplace (albeit smaller scale), but I think the real fighters there will be different players than in Elgea.

I have a solution for this once the war is over.