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Berde 
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 Topic: Army configuration
Posted: 28 Feb 2012 at 00:41 |
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The_Dude
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Posted: 27 Feb 2012 at 23:39 |
Similar question to the OP....
Why do some people send a 1 unit army against the victory sqs?
I've seen 3f3 do that at several sqs. vlachko did it at the Tor Carrock sq.
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geofrey
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Posted: 27 Feb 2012 at 14:54 |
It seems to me the rounding, or lack of it, would only come into play when facing equal amounts of troops OR if you are only part of the defending troops present.
In the case of the some of the tourny squares, i've seen 30k Bowman in 1 division with 1 commander. And then another 20 divisions all divided up with 10 of each troop.
I think what is happening is the 30k Bowman eat the minor losses, while the 10 of each troop divisions suffer no losses. I'm not forsure how commander health is calculated, but I think this could mean that the commanders in the 10 of each troop armies stay on the square until all 30k of the bowman are defeated.
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Createure
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Posted: 26 Feb 2012 at 02:16 |
 geofrey wrote:
Why are people spreading out their armies to take up every slot and every division in their armies?
My best guess is increases the length of battle calculation than can potentially bug out the way things are calculated. Is this accurate? Or is it just to annoy anyone who send a scout report?
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The simple answer is 'rounding errors'. You can gain a tiny advantage to casualty reduction by spreading your troops into 5 groups (does not improve battle strength at all though. Very 'micromanage-y' players will spread their units across a bunch of division to save a couple troops. Tactic is most useful if yer using a small number of powerful troops (like elementals, or harvesting NPCs with cavs) - in large battle reports it basically makes no difference but old habits die hard for some folks.
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Brids17
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Posted: 25 Feb 2012 at 17:27 |
geofrey wrote:
But dont the divisions without a commander not benefit from commander bonuses?
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That's correct.
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Nokigon
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Posted: 25 Feb 2012 at 10:02 |
Also, it gives you a better chance. Take this analogy. Someone has 1000 knights, and 5 commanders all leveled in Heroism and Vitality. The knights are split across the divisions, so 200 knights per commander. Someone else has the same number of knights, but just 1 commander. Therefore they lose the advantage of four people with 61 times the attack of a normal knight, and 600 health. Capiche?
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abstractdream
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Posted: 25 Feb 2012 at 08:22 |
Rill wrote:
....If you send just 1 of a particular troop type, 100% of the troops have to be killed in order for that troop to die. Similarly, if you send 10 of a troop type, at least 10% of the troops must be killed in order for one troop to die....
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Ok. Hadn't had that one explained before. Thanks.
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Rill
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Posted: 24 Feb 2012 at 00:49 |
I'm not sure on the commanderless division thing. Maybe because their other commanders are elsewhere. Or in my case, inconveniently dead.
The small number of troops thing is to take advantage of the rounding down of casualty numbers. If you send just 1 of a particular troop type, 100% of the troops have to be killed in order for that troop to die. Similarly, if you send 10 of a troop type, at least 10% of the troops must be killed in order for one troop to die.
For small alliances and smaller players who are trying to eke out any possible molecule of defense, it is at least psychologically satisfying.
Fughan Mandlode of nCrow once held off multiple larger incoming attacks with a commander and 7 stalwarts.
By the by, the commander's name is Snow White ...
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geofrey
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Posted: 23 Feb 2012 at 22:41 |
But dont the divisions without a commander not benefit from commander bonuses?
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abstractdream
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Posted: 23 Feb 2012 at 22:15 |
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It's because the death rate is diminished slightly. If there are say 10.9 kills per division, the fraction is dropped and there are only 10 kills. Over 5 divisions, you save 5 troops. May not seem like much, but it can make a difference in a close call battle.
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Bonfyr Verboo
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