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Manannan
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Posted: 10 Sep 2011 at 22:23 |
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A lot of people are asking in Global Chat how difficult certain NPCs are to defeat. As a rough guide here are some figures I will call, for want of a better name, the 'Manannan Difficulty Quotient' (MDQ)... Hey I invented it therefore I get to name it after myself! (Please note the name may change at a whim in the future!) In theory, the lower the MDQ the easier it should be to defeat that particular NPC if you have sufficient troop numbers. Obviously if you attack a 'Legion of ???' with only a dozen troops you will be annihilated! Plan your troop numbers accordingly. Don't say I didn't warn you! It should also be noted that the rewards for attacking Faction NPCs are normally greater than those of Nature NPCs (explained more in the unpublishable NPC Guide and Bestiary - lets not go there) so given a personal choice of attacking 100 Nature NPC Scaled Chargers troops (3.225 MDQ) or 100 Faction NPC Baynes Irregulars troops (2.6775 MDQ), I would hit the faction for the easier (theoretical) attack and bigger (theoretical) payday of gold and commander experience. This is of course totally dependent on the troops faced. REMEMBER theses figures are a guide only and in no way guarantee success in any attack. That is down to the troop numbers and tactics you decide to use! Faction MDQ
Nature MDQ
I have not listed the Elemental NPCs as they have been removed from the game and no longer lay waiting in ambush for you in dead cities. Obviously they still exist in the game in players armies who were fortunate enough to bind them in the third tournament, but as I'm not about to encourage new players to attack the experience/veteran players who have them for their own safety, therefore they are omitted. Edited by GM Luna - 28 Feb 2012 at 18:51 |
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Doesn't look good... doesn't look bad either!
"Manananananananananan, so long Sir, and thanks for all the fish." ~ St.Jude |
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Rill
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Thank you Mana! this represents a lot of work and is an awesome resource!
I am adding this information copied from Gryzelda's profile so people have it in one handy place. As for NPC numbers, my motto is: When in doubt, scout!
http://illyriad.honoredsoft.com/wiki/Critters_Chart Edited by Rill - 10 Sep 2011 at 23:48 |
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Manannan
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Your numbers vary very slightly from those I gathered over the months, but not by much:
Like Rill says 'When in doubt, scout!' Especially when it comes to the faction armies |
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Doesn't look good... doesn't look bad either!
"Manananananananananan, so long Sir, and thanks for all the fish." ~ St.Jude |
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Albatross
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Because these figures are meant to be 'hand-wavy remarks based on sightings' rather than counts, I expect there's some randomization before the Label is assigned. What follows [long post!] is my own reading of how much effort is worthwhile, and is by no means belittling the effort that Manannan and others have put into this. If we're looking for a discussion point, my question would be this: Could we get by with in-game information only?
Edited by Albatross - 22 Sep 2011 at 12:01 |
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Createure
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Nice guide Manannan.
@Albatross: this is a guide... go make a thread in suggestions if you want new units. |
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Albatross
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@createure: absolutely, yes. I had forgotten where I was posting :)
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Smoking GNU
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Well in that case i would LOVE to see someone kill a Legion of Saurians at some point int he future.
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Althathwe
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Monsters outside "newbie ring" more difficult than inside? Maybe more dangerous types or more biggest spots?
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Yso Sris
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I want to point out for example saurians, some with 200-400+ attack, still only give 1-2 experience points each. This is very cheesy IMO, they aren't worth the losses.
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-Molg
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Manannan
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Firstly you need to get a better understanding of how attacking NPCs works. I'm sure someone will be willing to explain it to you. Secondly I wonder if the difficulty and rewards of the Saurian NPC type has anything to do with why it has an MPD as high as it does? Nah... that would be too simple an explanation! To the pub!!!
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Doesn't look good... doesn't look bad either!
"Manananananananananan, so long Sir, and thanks for all the fish." ~ St.Jude |
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