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Tordenkaffen 
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 Posted: 28 Aug 2011 at 18:22 |
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Anyone get the feeling that this discussion should just move to "game suggestions" forum and be left for the devs discretion? I think every angle has been more or less covered at this point.
Cheers!
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Brids17
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Posted: 28 Aug 2011 at 21:33 |
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Is it me or are the people saying "it's not offensive, I like the half naked elf look" just arguing for the very sake of arguing?
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Kilotov of DokGthung
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Posted: 28 Aug 2011 at 21:38 |
 Brids17 wrote:
Is it me or are the people saying "it's not offensive, I like the half naked elf look" just arguing for the very sake of arguing?
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well i think its the other way around... how can you be offended by it? look outside the window... there are half naked, if not straight naked girls on every 2nd promotion for products and stuff.. the age were people where shocked by some skin is long since dead.
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Llyorn Of Jaensch
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Posted: 28 Aug 2011 at 22:14 |
Brids17 wrote:
Is it me or are the people saying "it's not offensive, I like the half naked elf look" just arguing for the very sake of arguing?
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Not at all. I'm wary of excessive political correctness.
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"ouch...best of luck."
HonoredMule
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Rill
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Posted: 28 Aug 2011 at 22:18 |
Kilo, there are unfortunately some players of online games who think that women are volunteering to be sexually harassed just by playing this sort of game. Having a picture that is sexually provocative just reinforces that delusion.
I am grateful that Illy is for the most part not like that. However, we do have occasional episodes of people being really inappropriate, and I think it's reasonable for women to want to have a choice to opt out of anything that might tend to increase that sort of behavior.
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Llyorn Of Jaensch
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Posted: 28 Aug 2011 at 22:28 |
Rill wrote:
I think it's reasonable for women to want to have a choice to opt out of anything that might tend to increase that sort of behavior. |
+1 I don't see why avatars cannot be left to the players personal prerogative such as one's profile.
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"ouch...best of luck."
HonoredMule
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Brids17
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Posted: 28 Aug 2011 at 22:58 |
Kilotov of DokGthung wrote:
there are half naked, if not straight naked girls on every 2nd promotion for products and stuff.. |
Just because something wrong happens all the time does not make it suddenly ok. Putting half naked women in advertisements is not only a cheap way of making a sale it also indirectly suggests that women are sexual objects and are only valuable or attractive if they're naked. The fact that the GMs seemingly support this sexist and degrading view on women is disappointing to say the least. So it has nothing to do with me being offended by an elf showing skin. I'm offended because they're sexually objectifying women in order to bring in customers.
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Kilotov of DokGthung
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Posted: 28 Aug 2011 at 23:07 |
Brids17 wrote:
Kilotov of DokGthung wrote:
there are half naked, if not straight naked girls on every 2nd promotion for products and stuff.. |
Just because something wrong happens all the time does not make it suddenly ok. Putting half naked women in advertisements is not only a cheap way of making a sale it also indirectly suggests that women are sexual objects and are only valuable or attractive if they're naked. The fact that the GMs seemingly support this sexist and degrading view on women is disappointing to say the least. So it has nothing to do with me being offended by an elf showing skin. I'm offended because they're sexually objectifying women in order to bring in customers.
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its wrong in your opinion. i do not try to force my own opinion on others. i am open and tolerant to everything. what i cant tolerate is intolerance. naked skin, cloths..same thing for me. btw sex is a part of life. deny it holds no propose. even talking about sex or sexual symbolism is al right in ma opinion. and its not like the elven picture is spreading her legs or bowing at 90 degrees ...
Edited by Kilotov of DokGthung - 28 Aug 2011 at 23:09
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Brids17
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Posted: 28 Aug 2011 at 23:27 |
Kilotov of DokGthung wrote:
its wrong in your opinion.
i do not try to force my own opinion on others.
i am open and tolerant to everything.
what i cant tolerate is intolerance.
naked skin, cloths..same thing for me.
btw sex is a part of life. deny it holds no propose.
even talking about sex or sexual symbolism is al right in ma opinion.
and its not like the elven picture is spreading her legs or bowing at 90 degrees ...
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*shakes head* You're misunderstanding my point. It has nothing to do with how provocative the picture is, it's that they're sexually objectifying women and indirectly telling women that their only worth is as a sexual object.
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Leungarific
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Posted: 29 Aug 2011 at 03:51 |
Make it fair! (Examples - (Yes, this is for you fangirls)   Edit: Also -  
Edited by Leungarific - 29 Aug 2011 at 03:54
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