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Points: 723 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Aug 2011 at 20:36
Originally posted by Brids17 Brids17 wrote:

Originally posted by Llyorn Of Jaensch Llyorn Of Jaensch wrote:

The maturity Kil refers to is not a 'staunch defense of forced association with puerile attractions' rather a maturity to not let it bother one.


To be fair, I don't think Kil understand *why* the image is offensive and as such, I don't think maturity is relevant here. As I stated, it isn't about how provocative the image is, it's that it's sexually objectifying, something that I don't think Kil understands.

Besides, I don't see how being ignorant to sexist imagery is mature.




this is rude to.
of curse i understand.
you fear that people looking at it would consider it a sexual object, thus feeling legitimate to harass the welder of said avatar.
now stop try to look smart and actually read what i type.
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swearing has nothing to do whit fine arts, mr. morale guardian.
 
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Points: 1483 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Aug 2011 at 20:33
Originally posted by Llyorn Of Jaensch Llyorn Of Jaensch wrote:

The maturity Kil refers to is not a 'staunch defense of forced association with puerile attractions' rather a maturity to not let it bother one.


To be fair, I don't think Kil understand *why* the image is offensive and as such, I don't think maturity is relevant here. As I stated, it isn't about how provocative the image is, it's that it's sexually objectifying, something that I don't think Kil understands.

Besides, I don't see how being ignorant to sexist imagery is mature.




Edited by Brids17 - 29 Aug 2011 at 20:34
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The "pro-midriff" crowd is doing a very good job of marginalizing the realism and extent of exposure in the picture.  You're doing an even better job of willfully ignoring the actual point of contention.  If I don't want to see these graphics, I don't.  If it bothers me that much, I add a filter to Adblock+ and never see it again--that's the power of an open internet viewed by browsers that serve their users' interests.  My rights and sensibilities don't have to be dictated by yours or that of the services I use.

But if I'm a female Elf and don't want to show other people that image as a representation of myself, tough luck.  That's patently backwards and has nothing whatsoever to do with whether you find it offensive or inappropriate.  I can't even change my gender to avoid this involuntary self-expression, and yes, proclaiming that no one should find a roughly 12% clothed woman offensive is willfully ignoring the sexual objectification inherent to such imagery.

The developers themselves disallow swearing in global chat.  Where's the "tolerance" there?  This has nothing to do with tolerance, because people want to tolerate the picture.  But there's nothing tolerant about enforcing your "tolerance" onto other people's personal identities.
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I don't think anyone is arguing to erase the picture.  We're just asking for the choice to not have it shown as a representation on our profile.

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Originally posted by HonoredMule HonoredMule wrote:

Quote this community is more mature and i think it can deal a bit of naked skin in the belly button area...


I smell an oxymoron.  What aspect of maturity encourages such staunch defense of forced association with puerile attractions?


that is kinda rude. Confused
what i mean has nothing to do whit puerile attractions.
its about tolerance.
does that picture really hurt your eyes so much you would erase it?
and what is wrong whit the fine beauty of an artistic picture that expose a little part of feminine graces?
i feel like i am arguing whit some kind of pastor or moral guardian ...
 
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Points: 924 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Aug 2011 at 18:51
Originally posted by HonoredMule HonoredMule wrote:

Quote this community is more mature and i think it can deal a bit of naked skin in the belly button area...


I smell an oxymoron.  What aspect of maturity encourages such staunch defense of forced association with puerile attractions?


Not an oxymoron at all.

The maturity Kil refers to is not a 'staunch defense of forced association with puerile attractions' rather a maturity to not let it bother one.

I don't personally defend puerile attractions but nor does a cartoon exposed midriff overly concern me.
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Quote this community is more mature and i think it can deal a bit of naked skin in the belly button area...


I smell an oxymoron.  What aspect of maturity encourages such staunch defense of forced association with puerile attractions?
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Points: 2 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Aug 2011 at 11:46
Look at this wiew from human's profile image.
Sharp and rigorius.
You can cut watermelon with it

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Points: 723 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Aug 2011 at 10:32
Originally posted by Leungarific Leungarific wrote:

This entire study is somewhat "TL;DR", but the gist is well-conveyed.
A debate on Massively... Just so we avoid stating the same points again and ... again.
And to address your last point, Kilo - E.g. 1, E.g. 2.



now now... i have to say this..
i may be a weirdo and a pot head...
but those people over there are just plain NUTS....
this community is more mature and i think it can deal a bit of naked skin in the belly button area...
if not i may lose all faith is still have for mankind.. and  dont have much, i tell you..
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