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Aurordan
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Okay, I can see the issue now, but you need to calm down.
The things you're objecting to are, respectively, out of date but true at the time (technically still true, since you did leave the game, but yes, misleading) and a fairly neutral report of what he'd heard. And honestly, if I'd heard something like that, especially about a player who'd left, I'd probably have thrown it in too. Also, why would you think you would get banned? Final comment: This guide is pretty out of date anyway. Someone should make a new one, maybe? I don't know that there should or could be a policy as to which on gets linked, I would just hope a new one would be better (and thus more often referred).
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abstractdream
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Angrim
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whether it's changed or not is of no interest to me, but the paragraph clearly states that: a) The first was originally published by a great Illyriad called The_Dude b) there was some dispute over who actually wrote it Manannan apparently cannot testify to the authorship of the original guide, but acknowledges (gratefully, as attested by the conversation following) the source he knows. when i read this post as a newb, i was confused by the reference to The_Dude leaving the game, but anyone who plays long enough to need the guide will know the truth of that, and the statement is evidently true in context, and does not seem to have been malicious in intent. i see no derogatory personal comments in the OP. (in fact, we seem to have only begun them since the objection was made.) is it reasonable to ask Luna to decide the authorship of a guide written before she joined the community? |
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GM Luna
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The objection to the second paragraph is noted. It also does not violate any forum rules, so I won't be editing.
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STAR
Greenhorn Joined: 11 Jun 2010 Status: Offline Points: 99 |
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+1 It was written by The_Dude
There should not be any dispute because the original author was The_Dude. There was talk that the Guide came from toothless but it didnt. It was information that was already being done by those experienced in the game, which is why The_Dude wrote and posted the newbie guide. Personally in my opinion it was The_Dude that started the movement in helping newbies out because at the time there was no player guide for them in forums. The only help you would get regarding information was if you joined an alliance, with The_Dudes guide and help ingame it gave newbies an option to play alone for a while. FYI: The_Dude had deleted the guide he wrote (for his own reasons) before him leaving, what he didnt know was Manannan had taken a copy of that guide The_Dude had written and saved it, later reposting it under his name (which I think is this thread). Later adding his own flare to it.
The guide was accurate "at the time" but it is not accurate at this time That guide i believe was taken without permission by Lion Heart and posted in forums. It was not a guide that was made accessible to the illy community, it was a private guide for there own players before him taking it.
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Arakamis
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so, should we go over the forums and correct all those that were accurate once but not so accurate now?
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STAR
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I think a suggestion was already suggested but just incase you missed it i'll repost it again for you
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Arakamis
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so the old thread stays then.. what's the point in that? someone still can say that it is outdated information.. and what's stopping anyone from starting a new thread anyways?
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KillerPoodle
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Arakamis - you missed the "especially since it is linked to many times per day"
If you post a link to some info - that info should be up to date. |
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"a little name-calling is a positive thing." - Rill |
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Albatross
Postmaster General Joined: 11 May 2011 Status: Offline Points: 1118 |
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I would have no problem with guides being updated, or even completely new guides being written.
Writing another guide need not obliterate the original works. It is courteous and good practice to cite others' work, and I see no dishonour in copying someone else's guide wholesale and making a few changes, so long as credit is given, and the originals are accessible (for historic, respectful, personal, or nostalgic reasons).
Failure to update the guides will ultimately lessen their value. |
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