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    Posted: 02 Jul 2013 at 22:33
Hi everyone,

A couple of changes to sovereignty today, persuant to the overall sov system change mentioned a couple of weeks ago.

I know some of these have been requested for a while.

Instant Cancellation of a Single Sovereign Level
You can now instantly cancel a single sovereign level that your town owns.

You do not need an army on the square to do this - just go to your sovereignty page and choose the cancellation option, and your sovereignty will reduce by a single level, instantly.  It will then remain at the new level, rather than continuing to fall.

If you reduce your Overall Sovereignty Level on a square to a level less than the Sovereign Structure built upon that square, then the sov structure level will also drop to match the sovereign level.

If you reduce your Overall Sovereignty level on a square to zero, then sovereignty will be cancelled entirely.

Ability to Cancel Phantom Sovereignty
You are now able to completely rescind "phantom sovereignty".  

Phantom sovereignty is sovereignty that the system claims you have but you are not charged for.  This sovereignty can now be completely cancelled out from the sovereignty page in your town.

Assuming that these features are working (they've been tested, but as you all know, sovereignty has been a tough one to get fixed so far!), I'd be very grateful if players could mark for closure any petitions they may have related specifically to these issues.

If there are new bugs - specifically related to these two issues - then please open a new petition.

We know that you can still get phantom sovereignty by running out of resources and that is the next item on the sov list to fix.  

Players who currently have sovereignty in "freefall" (by either cancelling prior to this release, or by running out of resources) will continue as before.  However, if this results in "phantom sovereignty", at least you can now be rid of this.

When all items on the sov fix list are done, we'll release the new counter-claim system.

Best wishes,

SC

EDIT: Two further sovereignty bugfixes as follows:

1. Running out of resources (gold or research) to maintain sovereignty on a square now results in the sovereignty for that square being entirely and immediately lost, along with any structure that had been built on it previously.   You can, of course, rebuild sovereignty from scratch.

2. A further fix to phantom sovereignty (either sovereignty that was not costing anything to maintain, or sovereign costs that were being applied to players without any actual sovereign square) has been implemented.  

We really hope that this will marks the end of the chronically exasperating phantom sov saga.



Edited by GM ThunderCat - 20 Aug 2013 at 23:51
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Jul 2013 at 22:36
Thanks....good to hear from you

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Jul 2013 at 23:36
Many thanks, SC! 

Really glad to have some update posts again Thumbs Up
I know you guys do hard work behind the scenes at the moment, thus hearing from you is even more worthful. Hug

...but... somehow I can't find this "ghostbuster"-button for shooting down my phantom sov...

Where exactly should this one be located on the sov page?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Jul 2013 at 23:48
Originally posted by Detritus Detritus wrote:

 
...but... somehow I can't find this "ghostbuster"-button for shooting down my phantom sov...

Where exactly should this one be located on the sov page?
It should be visible as "Cancel Sovereignty" button at the bottom of the sov summary for that square (obv make sure you're focused on the correct town!).

If it's not there, can you open a petition with details of owning town and SovX and SovY?

Cheers,

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Jul 2013 at 00:04
Thanks for the fast reply.
I cancelled my only square (a correct one...), but the break down for sov in the tax page is still 12k off... (but the tax I actually get is correct, too)

Well... obviously it must be a tax-page and not a sov error then, as it only shows up there...  I'll update my petition. As it does no damage, just put it aside until everything runs smoothly again =)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Jul 2013 at 00:13
The warning message when rescinding sov is still "... and will continue to drop...". It works as described here, though. :)
Thanks!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Jul 2013 at 00:16
Originally posted by GM Stormcrow GM Stormcrow wrote:

Originally posted by Detritus Detritus wrote:

 
...but... somehow I can't find this "ghostbuster"-button for shooting down my phantom sov...

Where exactly should this one be located on the sov page?
It should be visible as "Cancel Sovereignty" button at the bottom of the sov summary for that square (obv make sure you're focused on the correct town!).

If it's not there, can you open a petition with details of owning town and SovX and SovY?

Cheers,

SC

This particular "inverse phantom sov" issue (where the tax page claims that you are paying for sovereignty which isn't actually listed on your sovereignty page) should also now be resolved - though I'll keep an eye open for if it happens in the future.

Regards,

SC


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Jul 2013 at 00:19
Awesome change! Thank you very much!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Jul 2013 at 00:21
Originally posted by Nesse Nesse wrote:

The warning message when rescinding sov is still "... and will continue to drop...". It works as described here, though. :)
Thanks!


Hmm.  The message should have changed...!  Can you let me know precisely where the message appeared?  Was it in a system mail, in notifications, or on the sovereignty "confirm" page?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Jul 2013 at 00:43
Originally posted by GM Stormcrow GM Stormcrow wrote:

Originally posted by Nesse Nesse wrote:

The warning message when rescinding sov is still "... and will continue to drop...". It works as described here, though. :)
Thanks!


Hmm.  The message should have changed...!  Can you let me know precisely where the message appeared?  Was it in a system mail, in notifications, or on the sovereignty "confirm" page?

Best,

SC

Ah nvm, my fault.  Fixed now, and "confirm" page now shows the correct info.

best,

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