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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Aug 2011 at 08:08
Originally posted by Kilotov of DokGthung Kilotov of DokGthung wrote:



 its wrong in your opinion.
i do not try to force my own opinion on others.
i am open and tolerant to everything.
what i cant tolerate is intolerance.
naked skin, cloths..same thing for me.
btw sex is a part of life. deny it holds no propose.
even talking about sex or sexual symbolism is al right in ma opinion.
and its not like the elven picture is spreading her legs or bowing at 90 degrees ...


You have either failed to grasp our point completely, or you are arguing for arguments sake.

you claim 'i am open and tolerant to everything', then why are you not tolerant to the idea of people being given choice, or the right to self determination.

No-one is saying that this picture should be banned due to its provocative nature (personnaly I do not find it provocative at all), we are just saying that those people who have chosen to play female elf characters should be allowed to choose if their character is pictured in such a way.

One of my accounts is a female elf and I would not change this for the original image, but then I am not a girl, so would find it extremely funny and rather pathetic if some desperate idiot tried to chat me up through this game, as I am male, in my 30s and have a big beard, prob not what they would be hoping for.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Aug 2011 at 09:36
well i probably missed the point.
anyway,
shees... the pictures, even the dwarf one are al right in ma opinion..
and what i said, i still think that.
even if there are some idiots that are ... well just plain stupid to try to "look cool" whit provocative/ harassing messages...  those kind of people are to be ignored...
who the heck is so damn messed up to try to seduce a Online game player that can weary well be on the other side of the earth globe? lol
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Aug 2011 at 10:15
This entire study is somewhat "TL;DR", but the gist is well-conveyed.
A debate on Massively... Just so we avoid stating the same points again and ... again.
And to address your last point, Kilo - E.g. 1, E.g. 2.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Aug 2011 at 10:32
Originally posted by Leungarific Leungarific wrote:

This entire study is somewhat "TL;DR", but the gist is well-conveyed.
A debate on Massively... Just so we avoid stating the same points again and ... again.
And to address your last point, Kilo - E.g. 1, E.g. 2.



now now... i have to say this..
i may be a weirdo and a pot head...
but those people over there are just plain NUTS....
this community is more mature and i think it can deal a bit of naked skin in the belly button area...
if not i may lose all faith is still have for mankind.. and  dont have much, i tell you..
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Aug 2011 at 11:46
Look at this wiew from human's profile image.
Sharp and rigorius.
You can cut watermelon with it

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Aug 2011 at 18:45
Quote this community is more mature and i think it can deal a bit of naked skin in the belly button area...


I smell an oxymoron.  What aspect of maturity encourages such staunch defense of forced association with puerile attractions?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Aug 2011 at 18:51
Originally posted by HonoredMule HonoredMule wrote:

Quote this community is more mature and i think it can deal a bit of naked skin in the belly button area...


I smell an oxymoron.  What aspect of maturity encourages such staunch defense of forced association with puerile attractions?


Not an oxymoron at all.

The maturity Kil refers to is not a 'staunch defense of forced association with puerile attractions' rather a maturity to not let it bother one.

I don't personally defend puerile attractions but nor does a cartoon exposed midriff overly concern me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Aug 2011 at 19:27
Originally posted by HonoredMule HonoredMule wrote:

Quote this community is more mature and i think it can deal a bit of naked skin in the belly button area...


I smell an oxymoron.  What aspect of maturity encourages such staunch defense of forced association with puerile attractions?


that is kinda rude. Confused
what i mean has nothing to do whit puerile attractions.
its about tolerance.
does that picture really hurt your eyes so much you would erase it?
and what is wrong whit the fine beauty of an artistic picture that expose a little part of feminine graces?
i feel like i am arguing whit some kind of pastor or moral guardian ...
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Aug 2011 at 19:55
I don't think anyone is arguing to erase the picture.  We're just asking for the choice to not have it shown as a representation on our profile.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Aug 2011 at 20:32
The "pro-midriff" crowd is doing a very good job of marginalizing the realism and extent of exposure in the picture.  You're doing an even better job of willfully ignoring the actual point of contention.  If I don't want to see these graphics, I don't.  If it bothers me that much, I add a filter to Adblock+ and never see it again--that's the power of an open internet viewed by browsers that serve their users' interests.  My rights and sensibilities don't have to be dictated by yours or that of the services I use.

But if I'm a female Elf and don't want to show other people that image as a representation of myself, tough luck.  That's patently backwards and has nothing whatsoever to do with whether you find it offensive or inappropriate.  I can't even change my gender to avoid this involuntary self-expression, and yes, proclaiming that no one should find a roughly 12% clothed woman offensive is willfully ignoring the sexual objectification inherent to such imagery.

The developers themselves disallow swearing in global chat.  Where's the "tolerance" there?  This has nothing to do with tolerance, because people want to tolerate the picture.  But there's nothing tolerant about enforcing your "tolerance" onto other people's personal identities.
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