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    Posted: 13 Mar 2011 at 23:02
CHANGES TO EXISTING TRADE SKILLS, CARAVAN SPEED & MAXIMUM NUMBERS PLUS 2x NEW SKILLS

What you can carry
There's a restriction placed on the types of goods you can carry from a town, based on skills researched.

This restriction says that - for example - your caravans can't carry Swords until you have a L10 marketplace and the Trading skill, and you can't carry Saddles until you have a L15 Marketplace and the Mercantilism skill.

We've never really liked that restriction - it's a bit too artificial and limiting.

How many caravans you can have

Whilst we've discussed it in the past, we are still undecided as to whether caravans should cost upkeep to maintain - largely due to the potentially depressive effect this may have on trade and economic interactions come the full implementation of Trade v2.

However, we're also well aware that Trade is currently hampered by the 40 caravan restriction per town.

Equally, we've never really liked the current "one caravan maximum per level of marketplace until you hit the Cartels skill and then you suddenly double this number" rule.

The changes
From this point onwards, if you have something you wish to carry, you can now carry it if you have a caravan available, and the related trade skills (Haggling, Bartering, Trading, Mercantilism) have now been repurposed to effect the number of caravans your marketplace can support.

The cartels skill remains available at Marketplace L17, but has become a raw number increase to the number of caravans, rather than a doubling.

The existing trade skills now provide the following benefits:
  • Haggling - Allows up to 5 caravans in your town
  • Bartering - Allows an additional 5 caravans in your town
  • Trading - Allows an additional 10 caravans in your town
  • Mercantilism - Allows an additional 10 caravans in your town
  • Cartels - Allows an additional 10 caravans in your town
So, as before, at this point with a Marketplace L20 you can have 40 caravans, and in fact get it slightly earlier with the Cartels skill available at Marketplace L17.

We have then added in two new skills - Commerce, and Enterprise - that now give additional caravan count increases.
  • Commerce - L18 Marketplace, allows an additional 15 caravans in your town
  • Enterprise - L20 Marketplace, allows an additional 15 caravans in your town
The maximum caravan count available per town is now 70 caravans.

The Caravanserai skill also performed a dual function - doubling carrying capacity and speed, which we never liked much either.  So this skill now only doubles carrying capacity, not speed.

Caravan speed is now directly related to your marketplace level.

Caravans move at a speed of 20 squares per hour +1 for each level of the Marketplace.

So a caravan at a L20 Marketplace continues to move at 40 squares per hour. There will be further abilities to increase this speed in the future.

Skill descriptions on uk1 and ui2 have both been updated to reflect the new skill functions.

Caravans currently on trade missions, harvesting etc are unaffected until they return from their last job.

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Edited by GM Stormcrow - 14 Mar 2011 at 09:42
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Mar 2011 at 23:20
Cool.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Mar 2011 at 23:39
Good!! 40 caravans were getting small.

Going back to what you mention about not adding upkeep to caravans, i think some players will not be bothered at all for paying for more caravans, maybe you can leave the first 40 or 70 for free, and then start charging for them, say 10 for the 1st, 20 for the 2nd (30 for all), 30 for the 3rd (60 so far), and so on. This way you can get many more, but after a quantity not really interesting.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Mar 2011 at 23:46
I was thinking the same thing, Raritor.  So I say...what he said!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Mar 2011 at 00:03
These are welcome changes.  I also support Raritor's suggested amendment (allow additional caravans outside current capacity, but with upkeep).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Mar 2011 at 01:10
Originally posted by HonoredMule HonoredMule wrote:

I also support Raritor's suggested amendment (allow additional caravans outside current capacity, but with upkeep).


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Mar 2011 at 03:10
Great changes!!!!Party

And good Idea Raritor!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Mar 2011 at 06:12
what Raritor said.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Mar 2011 at 06:47
Sweet, appreciated changes! 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Mar 2011 at 06:51
It says in the research tree that Commerce i available from Lvl 18, but above it says Lvl 20... 


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